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I agree with Bill, the Golfer!
The Brain is the Mother to the Father; is the Matter to the Spirit; is
the Egg to the Chicken is the RNA to the DNA and is the Physical Creation to the Metaphysical Creator.
They
are irextricably connected in the Mind-Body duality and cannot exist independently of each other.
The fatherly forethought
(or spirit) can be HIS own father; but requires a (antispiritual) motherly afterthought to birth HIMSELF physically=antispiritually.
The motherly afterthought (or antispirit) can be HER own mother; but requires a (spiritual) fatherly forethought to birth
HERSELF mataphysically=spiritually.
The Rooster EXISTS spiritually before he hatches physically from the physical
egg and the Ovum EXISTS physically before the release of the chicken spiritualises the encompassment (Eve out of Adam as a
'rib').
The 'Living Brain' is Schroedinger's Cat as a collapsed wave, functioning
as a activated particle.
The 'Dead Brain' is Schroedinger's Cat as a collapsed particle, functioning as a
activated wave.
Now substitute Wave with Mind and Particle with Body and you have solved the quantum mystery,
both in the terms of material physics and immaterial metaphysics.
When a particular 'material vessel of the
spirit-matter' becomes damaged, too old or deceased; then the encompassing matter (read the physical universe as a matter
waveform) will UNCOLLAPSE the hitherto COLLAPSED Schroedinger cat ) and the 'Mind' will 'escape' from the
brain (or the cells or all of the other consciousness carriers defined in the hydrogen atom's polarisations etc).
And
Seth is an excellent 'channel'; indeed all so termed gods and demons are created by and through the 'mind of the
consciousness carriers', archetyped by 'man'.
It is every 'man' for himherself in these 'last
days' before the universe itself will transform its spacetime matrix.
Every 'manwoman' has the 'Job'
of composition; writing a Story for the 'Unity of the Creator-Creation Duality'.
The duality, which caused the
'split' between mind and body and between metaphysics and physics and between matter and spirit is itself in expectation
of recombination.
But ONLY the storytellers within space and time can fulfil the reunion.
The storytellers without
space and time, inclusive all the dead alive ones (collapsed particular kittens) DEPEND on the storytellers within
to USE their 'brainy imprisonments' to REHARMONISE the original separation.
Hans Schatten
--- In Panentheism@yahoogroups.com, "billk9989" <rcgolfer@...> wrote:
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> --- In Panentheism@yahoogroups.com, "Mark L" tyreds_tale@ wrote:
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> > This whole
debate about if "we are our brain" seems unsolveable at this time. Clearly Consciousness/Matter Dualism has been
reduced in the last few centuries as we can describe what was once considered 'spritual' to physical phenomena. However
I'd say it still held by most common folk. The Materialism camp (academia, science geeks, etc) figures it is only a matter
of time before consciousness itself will be scientifically shown to be purely mechanical. The Idealism camp (new thought movement,
christian science, etc) got a kick from the Matrix movies, but doesnt seem to be making progress, IMO.
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> > -Mark
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> My problem is less about what is ultimately
true about the nature of mind, and more about the arrogance and deception of brain scientists. These people make wildly deductive
claims of future knowledge that set lofty and, almost certainly, unachievable expectations. They impute an answer for which
they have not the slightest shred of proof. They are peddling made-up answers, folks. And their followers applaud and amplify.
It is a case of the blind leading the blind.
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> The situation is that there is a thinking, conscious entity
called the mind which, to the best of our knowledge, is unique in all of the world. There is also a piece of meat called a
brain. The two are correlated in many ways, including spacially and functionally. Brain scientists and their claques claim
is that mind is emergent. But there isn't the slightest shred of physical evidence that connects the dots for the critical
viewer. This is not science. This is faith. This is dogma. This is scientific theology. I am reminded of the old cartoon,
where two scientists are standing next to each other, looking at a huge chalk board full of flow charts and equations. One
scientist points to a particularly obscure point on the board and says to the other, 'and then a miracle occurs'.
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> The new thing in brain science is the brain scan. It's all the rage. (I am reminded of a few years
back when Hollywood discovered morphing. You couldn't go to a movie that didn't have a morphed scene.) What I am wondering
is how a brain scanner is going to unmask the deep mysteries of consciousness and the mind, when the mind is inherently subjective.
In my opinion, studying brain scans is going to yield about as much fundamental understanding of the mind as trying to understand
how a pilot flies an airplane by looking at his altimeter.
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> Brain scientists tell us not to believe the
dualists because the dualists have never been able to explain the interface between mind and matter. Then these same folks
turn around and expect us to swallow their story, which has not a hint of a described mechanism to tell us how brain gives
rise to mind. This is bizarre.
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> My sense of what is going on is that the entire brain science community
has climbed on the same train, and they want to crowd out all competition. They are a clergy of believers without evidence.
They engage in sweeping deduction, and hyperbole, and promises about what their work will yield. They are engaging in precisely
the type of behavior that Francis Bacon despised.
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> BillK
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