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title page from (one of) John Clayton's websites at: http://www.doesgodexist.org/
I shall add commentary in italic bold script in interspersion.
A Practical Man's Proof of God
The purpose of this brief study is to offer a logical, practical, pragmatic proof of the existence
of God from a purely scientific perspective. To do this, we are assuming that we exist, that there is reality, and that
the matter of which we are made is real. If you do not believe that you exist, you have bigger problems than this study
will entail and you will have to look elsewhere. [more]
This is a good statement, as in the final analysis
in this epoch of the human evolution; both, the position of the atheist and the position of the supernaturalist will be 'proven'
(by logistical induction and deduction, as well as the physical reproducible evidence) to become untenable. So anyone accepting
the proposition of being in 'existence' will be enabled by selfconsistent logical discourse to 'show' where
this 'being' derived from and for what purpose the 'being' is.
A Help in Understanding What God Is
To help the reader comprehend the nature of God, I would like to borrow an analogy from the book
Flatland by Edwin Abbott.* Abbott was a mathematician and the model is geometric in nature. It was originally
written in the 19th century for the purposes we are using it for here. Flatland is the story of a man who lives in a
two dimensional world--like a sheet of paper. In the surface of the paper there is only length and width-there is no
such thing as thickness. You and I are three-dimensional beings-we have length and width and frequently considerable
thickness. You cannot get me, a three-dimensional being, into a two-dimensional sheet of paper. You can draw a
front view of me (a portrait), but that is not the whole me. You can draw a top view of me which because I am bald,
ends up being three concentric circles, but that is not the whole me. If you and I were to look at the man in Flatland,
we would see him as a .... [more]
This is a good analogy and becomes potent, should the
Flatland-Volumeland typefication become extended into an archetype for a VolumeSpace-HyperSpace cross-intersection. It
can be shown, that the measurable and observed universe occupies a Plenum of spacetime, commonly understood as a Heisenberg
Metrical Realm of 'Virtual Energy' and which can be modelled on a statistical 'density'-distribution of
'particle-states' subject to a probabilistic integration of dynamic energy selfstates accomodating kinetic interactions
between the constituent 'particles'.
The so called 'Virtuality' of 'Uncertain' particular coordinates
(like position and momentum or energy and time in the Planck-Action) then manifests in the Plenum as the physical phenomena
amenable to measurement;; albeit LIMITED by the 'uncertainty' of the coordinate distribution (gaussian- or normal
probability distributions).
The 'Virtuality' is however not 'Undetermined' in the Subplenum, from
which the Heisenberg plenum emerged.
The Subplenum is the realm of the 'Spirit', however physically definable
by the inductive properties of the Heisenberg Metric also known as the c-invariant Light-Matrix (an aether of sorts).
The
subplenum so becomes the measurement limit for the plenum and where the plenum describes a physicalised energy and as universally
understood in the 'Laws of Nature' and the mathematical formalisms of the 'Laws of Physics' and their derivatives.
These 'Laws of Nature' are stochastic in the sense that any constituent 'particle distributions' (required
for dynamical interactions, such as kinematic collisions, scattering, emission and absorption etc) are themselves subject
to occur in a quantised and discretized spacetime.
The subplenum becomes occupied by supercompressed information
units which manouver in an UNDEFINED Infinitum (where the mathematical Nullstate becomes a VOID spacially and temporally not
describable, except in its mathematical extremums [Nullstate as uncountable Infinity]).
But in the Plenum,
where spacetimes are rigorously definable in discretization; the 'particle dynamics' utilizes the dynamics of the
space-occupation of the said particles as the multicompressable information carriers.
The 'Nature of God'
so becomes the minimum-maximum boundary condition which transmits the supercompressed information of the Void from the Subplenum
in NoSpaceTimeMatter to the Plenum of noncontinuous spacetimematter quantization and as given characteristically by the Heisenberg-Planck-Action.
God's Information from the Infinitum-Subplenum so enters the Finitum-Plenum of an observable and measurable
physical universe for the purpose of Reprocessing, Utility and transformation.
Once God's Data has attained
a certain resonance-status, the Plenum occupiers will be able to transmit their processed data back into the Subplenum of
the Infinitum.
A initial definition for 'God' so becomes the 'Original Source of all Data and Information'
contained, measured and observed in the physical universe of the Plenum by spacetime occupiers.
Who Created God?
One question which inevitably comes up in a discussion of this nature is what is the origin of God?
If God created matter/energy, and designed the systems that have propelled matter into its present arrangement, who or what
accomplished that for God? Why is it any more reasonable to believe that God has always been than it is to say that
matter has always been? As Carl Sagan has said, "If we say that God has always been, why not save a step and conclude
that the universe has always been?" (Carl Sagan, Cosmos, [New York: Random House, Inc., 1980], p. 257). [more]
Carl Sagan is correct. To reduce the Beginning
of the Universe to an asymptotic recession cannot solve the 'Origin of God' question; because this infinite reduction
CANNOT escape the plenum.
The Nullstate of the plenum so becomes the idea of the physical energy singularity as the limit
for this reductionism.
The other way around is however completely feasible and the actuality for the cosmic expansion
scenarios.
Once you have 'a beginning' in the spacetimematter quanta, then a simple multiplication and summation
of such spacetimematter- or God-string-quanta can become asymptotic in an Infinite Approach to UNITY or Oneness.
This
then is the statistical probability count, which must always be 1 in total integration.
So having the beginning, the
cosmological evolution for the universe can be ever better approximated and modelled via improving measurement apparatus and
theoretical calculations.
The trouble is the singularity of infinite physical quantifications.
But because God must
be a Quantum-God to be WITHIN the spacetimematter plenum; it becomes easy to postulate this Quantum-God to be precisely
the minimum physical energy configuration eigenstate for the physical universe and as the boundary condition, the initial-
and end condition and as the LIMIT for all measurements using spacetimematter- or plenum parameters.
Then it
is also easy to take the next logical step and postulate that the Quantum-God of the plenum is also the Quantum-God of the
subplenum with the caveat, that spacetimematter parameters do not exist in the subplenum and so the Quantum-God must remain
physically unreal or imaginary.
They become REALISED however in the understanding that the subplenum is the VOID and
the VOID is simultaneously Nothing AND Everything.
This Nothing and Everything then MANIFESTS in the plenum as the
minimum- and maximum energy eigenstates (technically defined in superbrane parameters of the modular duality, which brings
the theories together in a grand unification of all things able to exist - including all of the imaginary things).
The
minimum selfstate of the Quantum-God is a LIMIT of time measurement and just like a smallest possible circle unwinding itself
to define the lightpath for the circle's perimeter transversion.
The maximum selfstate is a little different, as
it must encompass the antistate of the minimum configuration as well as the potential expansion of the plenum under the auspices
of the subplenum providing Information-Energy as Data, which can then become physicalised thermodynamic-entropic energy in
the plenum.
This is the Infinite Approach being allowed and the Infinite recession being disallowed in the
'Laws of Nature' defining the Quantum-God.
Summararily then, the Origin of God is God itself, becoming
multiplexed from its monoplexed monadic singularity selfstate.
The details engage algorithmic encodings, built on
10 universal principles, 7 of which have antistates, whilst 3 have not. The principles and algorithms generate the fundamental
constants, used in proportionalities and ratios for the universe of spacetimematter to be born and to become descriptive in
mathematical equations.
The 10 principalities (which are archetyped as cherubimic and demonic kingdoms in the older languages
of the ancient scrolls) are:
1. Identity-AntiIdentity
2. Expansion-Contraction
3. Order-Disorder=Entropy=Chaos
4. Symmetry-Antisymmetry=Disparity=Distortion
5. Infinity=Divergence-Limit=Convergence
6. Inversion=Reciprocity-Constancy=Invariance
7. Reflection-Absorption (6&7 define Hebrews.6.18)
8. Relativity (No AntiPrinciple---Revelation17.11)
9. Quantization=Holofractalisation
(No AntiPrinciple)
10.New Identity, using 1-9 to transform the Old Dual-Identity
What Was the Cause of the Beginning?
It is assumed that the reader has read the first two booklets in this series, one titled A Practical Man's Proof of God and the other A Help in Understanding What God Is. In these two booklets, we have established that all scientific evidence supports the fact that there was a beginning,
and that the beginning was caused. We have also shown that the creator of time, space, and energy has to be something
that is outside of time, space, and energy. The nature of the cause cannot be in the three-dimensional physical world
in which we live and must be outside of time to have created time. [more]
Yes John; but your statements, while true in essence
are required to be greatly expanded upon. The Quantum-God is OUTSIDE the plenum and so is indepenedent on spacetimematter
parameters.
Many people have great difficulties to perceive of the Quantum-God to be INFINITE as the VOID and the INFINITUM
OUTSIDE of the plenum in the subplenum and simultaneously being FINITE as the Quantum-God in the plenum.
You see, the
VOID mirrors itself as the DUALITY of being both the Nothing and the All in the FINITUM of a universe, which is finite
in extent, however growing, BUT made up of the BOUNDARY CONDITION for the VOID in the quantum-string-membrane definition
of the Quantum-God in spacetimematter parameters.
Why I Left Atheism
Of all the lessons that I present concerning the existence of God and of all the material that I
try to make available to people to learn about God's existence, the present lesson, "Why I Left Atheism," is
the lesson in the series that I frankly do not like to present. I guess none of us like to look back in our lives to
a time when we made poor judgments and foolish mistakes--when we took rather really idiotic positions--and admit this, especially
to people we are not well acquainted with. I present this lesson, however, because it is my fervent hope and prayer
that perhaps by exposing my mistakes and by pointing out the things that were a part of my early life, some who might be following
the same paths (to a greater or lesser extent) might not make those same mistakes. [more]
Atheists are in some sense much closer to the 'Real
God' than the Believers, which give allegiance to a 'False God' (see related postings). So I would be at peace
with myself John. The 'Truth' shall prevail and theis 'Truth' is found in archetypes, which both the atheists
and the believers espouse in the forms of mathematics and the scriptural symbolisms. the WORDS of God is also the SWORD of
God.
God's Revelation in His Rocks and in His Word
This paper is a part of the Does God Exist? program which was begun in 1968 by John Clayton as an attempt
to show that intelligent, scientifically literate, thinking people can and should believe in God and in the Bible as His Word.
Your author, John Clayton, is a science teacher who began his teaching career in the public schools of South Bend, Indiana,
in 1959 and has taught physics, chemistry, geology, astronomy, and physical science since that time. Since I was an
atheist for many years and came to believe in God through my studies in science, it frustrated me to see students and parents
who viewed faith and science as enemies. [more]
I could not agree more with you John and fully share
your sentiments.
The Problem of Human Suffering
Almost every time that I am involved in a lectureship on a college campus or a similar place I have people--young
people usually--who will come to me and say, "Well all right, you've shown us that there is some evidence for God's
existence, but if there is a God and if he is a loving and merciful God, how do you explain the problems of suffering and
death and all the tragedies that happen to people?" Why is it that these things occur? I believe any question
that man can ask has a reasonable answer-at least an answer that is as consistent with God's existence as it is in opposition
to God's existence. And so, in the problem of human suffering and the problem of death and tragedies--things that
happen to all of us--there are answers. [more]
Those things occur and 'evil exists'
see (*) below, because the plenum is like the 'Scattered Information of God' as a singular being, desiring, like you,
to LIVE a Life of Experience, Fulfilment, Joy and Happiness.
But in its original selfstate in the Void of the Subplenum,
God could not experience ANY SEPARATION and so no concept of up-down, hot-cold, good-bad, feel good-feel bad and so on could
exist.
So God gave 'half of itself' away to create the plenum as the materialised universe and decided to
put spacetime as SEPARATION Parameter into that plenum.
And in this way God became a FATHER and the Universe became
a MOTHER; longing to get together again to 'make love' and bring to birth many new baby universes with the 'Body
of the Mother' and the 'Spirit of the Father'.
Father God and Mother Dog have been apart from each other
for over 19.11 Billion years (civil) by now.
When the timeline has been fulfilled and Adam knows who He is in multitudinous
forms and when Eve also knows who She is and having become awakened from her snowwhite slumber by the seven dwarves or angeldemons;
then a new reconfiguration of the universe (see Jesus comments below) will allow the Cosmic Father to become a FatherMother
and the Cosmic Mother to become a MotherFather and the Chicken-Egg paradox will be no more as the Trees created before the
Seeds were in the ground and before it had even rained {Genesis.2.5}.
And then all Hell will break loose and Hell will 'marry'
Heaven in a Holy Matrimony in the Castle of the Father's Dragons and the Mother's Unicorns.
And then will Father
Love Mother and the Babys will be born to become Fathers and Mothers themselves to give great pride and joy to their parents,
then GRADUATING to be Cosmic GrandFathers and GrandMothers.
(*)Isaiah.45.7:
I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
The Whiner's Guide to Chemotherapy
This is the epilogue for those of you who flip to the end of the book. I did make it! I'm
62!!! The exclamation points are because I didn't think I would see 50. God is so awesome! God would
be awesome even if I had not seen 50, but it is amazing how He has made my cancers turn out for good--both mine and His.
It feels great to feel great! Thank You, God! [more]
Well done John, John of Patmos lived as the
last witness to the 'Real Jesus' and John has tarried to see your day.
The Real Jesus of History
Was the real Jesus of history one and the same as the Christ of faith whom we read about in the New Testament
and worship in the church? Was Jesus really raised from the dead? Is he really the divine Lord of lords?
Or is it possible that the portrait of the divine Son of God is an exaggeration, at best, or a complete fabrication, at worst,
of the original Jesus? Could the one whom Christians worship be merely a mythological creation or is he real?
These questions have exercised many great minds and have been the dominant issue in New Testament studies during this century.
Between 1910 and 1950 approximately 350 lives of Jesus were published in the English language alone. Since then the
numbers have increased significantly.Not only are Christians writing about Jesus, but also Communists, Jews, atheists and
agnostics are taking up their pens to paint a portrait of Jesus. [more]
It will become understood in the 'latter days',
that the 'Jesus of Christian Faith' is the doomed 'Fake-Prophet' in the 'Book of Revelation'.
The 'True historical Jesus' remains basically unknown by the vast majority of humans
until the details of the gnostic cosmogony (as say found in the WORDS of the scriptural Jesus in the Nrew Testament, the Gnostic
Gospels [Gospel of Thomas, Hebrews, Revelation, Secret Book of John are foundational] and related literature are understood
and made available to the general populance.
The 'Real Jesus' represents THE holofractal archetype,
allowing the plenum of spacetime to communicate with the subplenum. The 'real Jesus' so forms a necessary 'Boundary
Condition' for the reconfiguration and the Metamorphosis of the Plenum and its holographic subsets in toto.
The 'Real
Jesus' manifested a first reconfiguration of the plenum on April 1st, 31 AD (Gregorian).
This transfiguration of
the plenum negated a particular archetypology, which hitherto disallowed any direct communication and data transmission between
the Father's Subplenum and the Mother's Plenum.
The old archetype is none other then a 'False God-Image'
known under many labels, such as Yaldebaoth (the abortion of Barbelo) or the 'Jealousy God of the Old Testament'.
The 'Real God' of the Old Testament is found in the God of Genesis and the 'Burning Bush of Moses'.
The next discourse is highly gnosticised and the few will understand in the beginning, but will become the many as
the 'True Story of God unfolds'.
The Lord God, walking in the garden and NOT KNOWING where Adam and
Eve (all archetypes from the subplenum btw and not real personages except as everyone in image existence) were is the 'Fake-God'.
Adam, in archetype BECAME God before the sabbath and therefore the usurper-God assumed the title of Lord God in HIS jealousy
of Adam.
As soon as Adam KNEW (because the Christ-Serpent induced Eve to lose their common Ignorance=Sinfulness about
the true state of archetypical affairs); the 'Real God' went voluntarily into Exile to await Adam's and Eve's
Rescue attempt.
The 'True Meaning' of the Sabbath is the Day of REFLECTION as the 'God's Rest'.
(*)Isaiah.45.7:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the lord do all these things.
The 'Real God' is both WITHIN and WITHOUT the plenum and the subplenum as the great mystery, now solved.
But for the purpose of the timeline, archetypically to allow Adam and Eve, namely YOU as any Man and YOU as any Woman, a
'False God' must EXIST to allow the CONTEXT for the Distinction between 'Good and Evil' and 'Light and
Darkness' and 'Hot and Cold' and Yin and Yang and and and to evolve both physically and mentally, but mainly mentally
as the mentality can 'tap' the 'spirit' (of the ZPE) in frequency resonance to then induce the physical.
This is an open thread for now.
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