Israel Sadovnik wrote in panentheism:
Where does the information come from?
Once
upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles
and antiquarks,
all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons… gluons field ….. etc.) –
were assembled in a "single point".
It means that all information also was assembled in a "single point".
And then there
was " big bang " and all information flew to bits
in different sides.
Suppose , that every bits of a "single point",
every particle
of a "single point" is the owner of some information.
Then there are two possibilities:
a) every
particle has the own information and after 20 billions years
they accidentally united and created everything including
a man.
The aim of it is to observe all accidental possibilities.
b) in the beginning every particle has zero information
.
Question :" How does zero information further arrive to a
very high informational level ? "
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If you
go on way a) - so maybe yes, maybe no
you will pass through a forest of knowledge .
If you go on way b) - you will
pass a forest of
theoretical knowledge along a straight road.
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Tony B.
comments: Israel's 'single point', aka
the 'singularity in theoretical physics' can very well be modelled as a kind of 'God-Particle' or superquantum, as Israel
proposes. And it is not as drastic a hypothesis as many might presume, that this 'super-particle' in some manner connects
the elementary quantum of light in the photon and a minimal charge-mass quantum in the electron. It
is precisely this association in terms of 'gauge physics' of elementary interactions, which transforms say the energy of a
matter-antimatter couplings (say electron-positron or proton-antiproton) into electromagnetic photon- (say gamma rays moving
in opposite directions)or quark-antiquark (say meson) couplings. So
the deeper question for elementary physics addresses the 'common denominator' encountered in such fundamental transformations. How
can a matter-antimatter pair transform into pure electromagnetic radiation under the conservation laws of energy and momentum? Again,
the basic physics is easy. It uses the basic laws for energy in Sadovnik's E=mc2=hf=kT and as can be hypothesized
from a number of principles in reverse order; beginning with temperature as a kind of preatomic 'kinetic heat' transmuting
into a pure energy of radiation in the notion of 'wavelike' photons and lastly emerging as concentrated energy in the form
of 'particulated' mass, bifurcated into matter and antimatter through the gauge transformations (say radioactive decay primordially
restricted to a kind of mass induction process commonly associated with the Higgs mechanism - the 'Higgs Boson' also being
labeled the 'God Particle' by physicist author Ledermann). But
the theoretical physicst should not be satisfied with the 'Higgs Boson' (HB) being the precursor of all mass-carrying
particles. For how did the HB gain its property of 'inducing mass' into everything else under the boundary- and initial conditions
for the models of cosmology? And if the primordial
cosmos emerged from the kinematics of an ancient photon-soup; how then were the primordial photons defined? The
answer is rather more logical than apparent on peripheral preponderances.For
one can easily ascertain, that all photons from the cosmology, say the Big Bang; must have had a common origin and associated
with a kinematic mass. One learns in high school,
that Electromagnetic Radiation or EMR is manufactured by the acceleration of mass-associated electric (Coulomb) charges.In
rotating a proton in the interior of a star, say the sun, its centripetal acceleration produces EMR as the comoving interaction
of electric- and magnetic fields, propagating as a Maxwellian EM-Wave at lightspeed. It
is of course the solar dynamics itself, which rotates the solar protons to result in the well studied nuclear fusion reactions,
which in turn emit the EMR as light and heat and other forms of radiation. So
now the physicist finds himherself in a catch-22 situation. Shehe understands, that the EMR was made by the mass within the
sun and that the product EMR can rematerialise under the obeyance of the conservation laws, say a sufficiently energetic gamma
photon, can 'split' into a positron-electron twin. But
where did the original starmass come from - and was this 'singularity-mass' rotating to provide the required accelerations
to manufaxcture the EMR? Then the phycisist discovers
the clue in herhis logic. It is the EXISTENCE of electric charge, which is more fundamental than the definition of mass in
whatever modelitis. So the 'God-Particle' does not
have to have any mass after all - BUT it must have a form of 'Charge'. Now
it cannot be the same charge as that found in mass association, say the electric charge of electrons and protons; it can however
be its precursor in some way. For if mass is NOT
truly fundamental in the cosmogenesis, then whatever made the 'elementary inertial particles' cannot be made from the same
'stuff', but must be something more 'ancient'. Should
one however associate the electric charges with mass and hypothesize 'super charges' with a premassive (say gravitational
but not yet inertial) cosmos, then the equations of physics could be theoretically extrapolated. The
hypothesis then becomes an analogy: "The acceleration of nonmass-associated super charges produces superEMR; just as the acceleration
of mass-associated electric charges produces EMR." One
might take the liberty to call the super charges as magnetopolic charges and call the Super-EMR as the EMMR for Electro-MagnetoMonopolic-Radiation
in referrence to the nature of unpolarised magnetic charges in the history of theoretical physics. So
now one finds a 'God-Particle' with specific characteristics and inclusive of all the gauges found in the partitioning of
the elementary interactions into gravitational- electromagnetic- and nuclear 'forces' and encompassing the 'Higgs Boson' as
the 'Giver of Mass'. This 'God-Particle' must allow
its reappearance as any of the measured, observed, or postulated gauges: HB, Gluon, Photon, W/Z and Graviton. The
transmutation of a massless W/Z precursor using the HB breaks the symmetry of a massless state of the 'Big Bang' under the
auspices of the Triunity of E=kT=hf=mc2. The
'God-Particle' must also constitute the limit or boundary for the physical parameters, associated with the 'TRINITY of
God'. So the 'singularity, which nature abhors' cannot
exist, save as a 'nonsingularity' yet a monad or basic building block for this nature itself. The
'God-Particle' so becomes the Quantum of spacetime itself; carrying a specific temperature, a specific mass, a specific length
and a specific frequency; all as self consistent eigenstate of its selfhood. The
'God-Particle' can also be termed a transformed 'Planck-String' of mass 2.22x10-20 kg, concentrated in a wormhole
of perimeter 10-24 centimeters and a quantum 'micro-Black Hole-Hawking' temperature of 1.416..x1020
Kelvin. And where did this Planck-Boson come from?
Answer: "The collective human mind - in the image
of God - invented it in using the library of the collective works of human ingenuity, observation, experiment and hypotheses
and theories". A consequence: When the Big Bang occurred,
all the individual minds were present in a spacetimeless scenario as the collective human mind, which IS a subset of the 'God-Mind' (and
say as extented ET). A scientific resulting fact,
should the above premise hold: Assuming the total volume of a typical human of say 70 kg is 70 litres or 0.07 cubicmeters;
then by volume, so 8.8x1065 'God-Particles' are contained by such a human - by mass it would be 3.15x1021
such 'Gods'. But then the physicist knows from experience,
that much of so called 'empty space' is not 'empty' at all, but contains a form of energy, say in olden times called the 'essence
of god'. Tony B.
Why I say so?
The visible matter
of world is only a small part of all mass in the
Universe.
More then 90% of the matter in the Universe is unseen,"
dark
matter ".
Nobody knows what it is and therefore it is possible to say that more
then 90% of information is
hiding and unknown to us.
So our aim must be to study "dark particles " or…..
………..
We know,
there is no information transfer
without energy transfer. More correct : there is no quant
information transfer without
quant energy transfer.
And the electron has the least electric charge.
It means it has some quant of the least information.
What
can electron do with this information?
Let us look the Mendeleev / Moseley periodic table.
We can see at first, that
electron does, it interacts with proton
and creates atom of hydrogen. This is simplest design,
which was created by
electron.
And we can see how this information grows and reaches
high informational level. And the most complex design,
which
was created by electron is the Man.
The Man is alive essence. Animals, birds, fish are alive essences.
And an atom?
And atom is also alive design.
The free atom of hydrogen can live about 1000 seconds.
And someone a long time ago has
already said, that if
to give suffices time to atom of hydrogen, he would turn into Man.
Really, it is not beautiful,
is it ?
Maybe it is better not to search about "dark, virtual particles "
but to understand what the electron is,
because
even now nobody knows what electron is.
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Was I mistaken? No.
Because according to
Pauli Exclusion Principle
only one single electron can be in the atom.
This electron reanimates the atom.
This electron
manages the atom.
If the atom contains more than one electron
(for example - two), this atom represents " Siamese twins".
Save
us, the Great God, of having such atoms, such children!
Each of us has an Electron, but we do not know it.
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Why
does only electron have quant of information?
Maybe does proton also have quant of information?
No. Single proton has
no quant of information.
Why?
Because information can be transfered only by
electromagnetic fields. And we don't
have a theory
about protono-magnetic fields.
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Once upon a time, in the beginning, there was
one "single
point " accidentally.
Then it has accidentally blown up
Big Bang " has taken place.
It was the reason of accidental
creation of some thousands
kinds of elementary particles and their girlfriends - antiparticles.
Then atom of hydrogen
was formed accidentally
Then complex atom was formed accidentally.
Then stars were formed accidentally.
Then the
Planet the Earth was formed accidentally.
Then the fauna was formed accidentally.
Then the animal kingdom was formed
accidentally.
Then the man was created accidentally.
And this man can accidentally think logically.
But of course,
unfortunately, not always.
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Many years ago man has accustomed some wild
animals (wolf, horse,
cat, bull , etc.)
and has made them domestic ones.
But the man understands badly the four-footed friends.
In 1897
J. J. Thomson discovered new particle - electron.
Gradually man has accustomed electron to work for him.
But the man
does not understand what an electron is.
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For my peasant logic at first it is better to understand
the closest thing (for example an electron) and then
to study the far away space and particles
(for example dark,
black, virtual …etc particles).
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--- In Panentheism@yahoogroups.com, Mangum Murdock
<mangummurdock@...> wrote:
>
> LOL..that's not very nice Herb. Correct any physics
he might
present instead of his interpretation.
>
> mangum
>
> "Herbert B. Borteck" <hbborteck@...>
wrote:
> But sometime ( for example in critical situation )
> the energy of electron can be : hw> kT.
>
The small energy of electron is higher
> than common electric field of brain.
> All of us have the personal
God / Soul
> and it is Light Quanta / Electron.
> ===========…
> Best wishes.
> Socratus.
>
http://www.socratus.com
>
> Reply;
> And I say that you have not any knowledge.
> You should see your Rabbi and get some
>
counseling.
> Herb