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Allan Francom wrote in quantumrelativity:
 
It is a nagging thought that keeps popping up...

If existing is as in a HoloGram, then energy itself is illusory and a supernova
takes no more energy than no supernova - to the processor.

The reason this keeps popping up is that a HoloGram is tremendously
energy efficient, capable of being 'run' or 'observed' by multiple observers
in the whole variety of directions.  Or even the same exact directions
simultaneously by multiple observers.

In a word:  Elegant.

Science ?  No.  I mention it due to an experience, a religious or shamanic
type experience.

I'm left with the... the... awareness or 'belief' that reincarnation is not
restricted to happening in the future.  i.e., the awareness is not bound
by physical time, except say, while 'running a view' or 'focusing'.

( Interesting, Terry Pratchet, sci fi / fantasy author, seems to have
  made the same observation at the close of 'The Truth' )

Pre-destiny - perhaps actually, but during focus or 'life'.

In this way perhaps everyone was once Cleopatra or Napoleon.

No dilemma.

Must a thought be energy ?  Or merely a crystalline 'memory'
in 3D ?

Is awareness the same as a thought ?  or is it perhaps merely
the observance ?

Maybe something most everyone can relate to on that is a rough
emotional experience such that your body is going but you seem
to be looking out from behind your eyes while everything is just
happening, like 'you' are the observer on the inside not exactly
the participant.  Fortunately that doesn't happen very often, to
me anyway, but for a few times in my youth.

I can imagine maybe it is fairly common however.

Or I needed the guys in white coats....

 
Hi Allan!
 
No,  no guys in white coats. You are indeed Napoleon and have bedded Cleopatra and been bedded as her.
The trick is imagination - thoughts are real and most men understand that one can 'make love' to an object of one's sexual desire in one's thoughts.
 
But men are wired slightly differently than woman in the functionality of the libido and so the biological impulses for men are more visually stimulative than the opus operandi for the feminine - less spontaneous and requiring more 'foreplay'.
 
But then in all men is the goddess and in all women harbours the god so there; stereotyping is to be eschewed.
 
Where is Napoleon now and what of Cleopatra - the sexy bitch?
 
There is imagery, pictures, portraits, sculptures, photos -memory and remembrance, movies made and stories written and told.
Where is the aborted child of Bejing and the  starving infant of Zimbabwe, which has just died?

 
The aborted child had no material experience in its brief journey into embodiment, except as part of another's body and the starving child's interaction with its environment was predominatedly one of suffering, pain and deprivations.
 
But there WILL BE MEMORY!

As the mother cried in the burial of her child, memories were formed and transmitted throughout the holographically defined universe for all who wished to 'tune into'.
 
As the 'soul' of little Azassa found itself separated from its enclosure of nagging hunger and the experience of chronic pain; it suddenly felt the warmth of its grandmother which had 'passed' a year before.
Then older and more ancient memories flooded Azassa - images of roaming the woods and playing with others; of being a father of children, noble and proud and subject to strange moods and feelings; images of being a grandmother with pets and of little children to care for and being of a whiter skin; images of a strange world, where unfamiliar animals crawled about and were two suns could be seen during the day  and images and images and images...
 
And little Azassa felt the warmth of being home; it was itself, but not as separated as it had felt for the last 6 years or so. The familar warmth of grandmother became more encompassing as the remembrances became more 'real' and more applicative to reidentify Azassa as the REALITY of its past experiences.
 
Then new decisions had to be made from this new perception of itself; Azassa also was Delilah and Kistrak and... and... and.. what to do next what to think next whom to meet next whom to ask next????
 
On the question of energy!

 
Thought equals energy; but this energy is ANCESTRAL to  the energy described in the physical manifestos and the conservation laws. It is here that the laws of entropy become double-arrowed and it is here where the linear 'flow of time' becomes bidirectional from the NOW into past and future as linearly perceived.
 
So the best one can do from the paradigm of reductionist science is to align the ANCESTRAL ENERGY with the ZPE, which so must be REDEFINED not so much as a VIRTUAL Heisenberg Vacuum of matter-antimatter interaction, but  as a REAL potentially INFINITE reservoir of SOURCE-ENERGY albeit definable as the metric limit for the materiality including Big Bangs and anything associated with spacetimemass creations.
 
Then Allan's notion of awareness as memory and say consciousness becomes reductionistic in being definable in terms of the REAL SOURCE-ENERGY aka the electromagnetic monopolic 'magnetoelectricity' colloquially, historically and universally known as SPIRIT or Energy of God.
 
John.4.24: "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." (Jesus said).
2John.4.8: "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."
 
Subsequently and logically then; the Ancestor of the physically measured energy is the 'Love of God' or the 'Spirit of God'.
 
Quantum Relativity then gives PRECISE definitions in term of Quantum Mechanics and string parameters, as to a modern interpretation or labeling for the 'Spirit of God'.
 
This by necessity, must PREDATE in linear terms anything at all to do with material manifestations as described in the metrics of created space and superimposed temporal times.
 

Tony B.

 
To: quantumrelativity@yahoogroups.com
From: light.rock@...
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 01:44:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [quantumrelativity] RE: [Panentheism] Re: The Devine Mind/Bill


It is a nagging thought that keeps popping up...

If existing is as in a HoloGram, then energy itself is illusory and a supernova
takes no more energy than no supernova - to the processor.

The reason this keeps popping up is that a HoloGram is tremendously
energy efficient, capable of being 'run' or 'observed' by multiple observers
in the whole variety of directions.  Or even the same exact directions
simultaneously by multiple observers.

In a word:  Elegant.

Science ?  No.  I mention it due to an experience, a religious or shamanic
type experience.

I'm left with the... the... awareness or 'belief' that reincarnation is not
restricted to happening in the future.  i.e., the awareness is not bound
by physical time, except say, while 'running a view' or 'focusing'.

( Interesting, Terry Pratchet, sci fi / fantasy author, seems to have
  made the same observation at the close of 'The Truth' )

Pre-destiny - perhaps actually, but during focus or 'life'.

In this way perhaps everyone was once Cleopatra or Napoleon.

No dilemma.

Must a thought be energy ?  Or merely a crystalline 'memory'
in 3D ?

Is awareness the same as a thought ?  or is it perhaps merely
the observance ?

Maybe something most everyone can relate to on that is a rough
emotional experience such that your body is going but you seem
to be looking out from behind your eyes while everything is just
happening, like 'you' are the observer on the inside not exactly
the participant.  Fortunately that doesn't happen very often, to
me anyway, but for a few times in my youth.

I can imagine maybe it is fairly common however.

Or I needed the guys in white coats....



On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Tony Bermanseder <
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Panentheism/post?postID=FFUQoUj_rt0BpAOJIhMRV3-_IBkqeiyiPdYDJ0_WRlw3K7lASRDBXBg4oYNAesmLescF_KxsyHnuXuYDMuHb> wrote:
Tony, I cannot fully connect all the dots on this on first read, but I
do get the general point of your thinking. More importantly, I can
see how it has the potential to move the endless debates of monism
versus dualism to new ground. These debates suggest to me what it
must have been like a little over a hundred years ago when people were
debating wave versus particle theories of light. Ultimately, somebody
had to step back and come up with new, more encompassing science to
resolve the paradox. This is what you are attempting to do. 

 
Hi Bill!
 
Yes, I agree with you what is requiered is a MORE ENCOMPASSING SCIENCE, which I term omni-science incorporative of an SPIRITUALITY as old as historical sentient man and the classicism of materialism.
Most of the debates between say evolutionist and creationist or between atheist and believer will be looked upon as archaic and underinformed in a hopefully viable future of humankind and terralis pneumasophia.


Tony B.
  'Unfortunately, a misreading of the Cartesian paradigm has resulted in
the materialistic tunnel vision now prevalent in some avenues of
mainstream science...'

Tony, I am interested in your ideas on mind and matter. I am confused
by your use of the word 'misreading' here. Misread suggests to me a
misunderstanding or an incomplete understanding, as opposed to (or in
addition to), disagreement. Are there aspects of dualism you feel are
misunderstood - as opposed to disagreed with - by those who don't
accept it? 'Disagreement' began before the the ink was dry on the
paper, as I read it (eg. Hobbes supposedly wrote that the statement
should be changed to something on the order of, 'I think, therefore
material substance is capable of thought'). 

  You are quite correct here. 'Misread' is somewhat an iappropriate label here. I should have used misinterpreted or misunderstood in the meaning of a selfrestrictive viewpoint say.
And Hobbes supposed statement here exemplifies this point. It presupposes a noncausative connection between the thinker and the material substance in not allowing one or the other or both.  

Either the mind (thought) creates the substance or vice versa or both in a manner of mutual induction or feedback say.
  But if the nonmaterial mind created the substance of the body; then the origin of the nonmaterial remains unexplained.   If the material brain creates the mind, then the origin of the matter similarly remains unexplained.   This is the dilemma in a nutshell.  

Solution - find the common denominator of both the material and the nonmaterial and discover and analyse the genesis of that. 

One common denominator is ENERGY, as say given in bosonic massless photons and inertial fermions. But the photons are all 'made' by material sources (fusion in stars say); so modern physics must eventually reduce the energy transformation of say nuclear fusion and the binding energies inherent in E=mc^2 to some mass precursor. Then this mass precursor or ancestor of inertia will have properties, which must encompass both material and nonmaterial properties etc. etc. To accomodate a Big Bang cosmogenesis, this ancestor must be high in energy and very small in size and so very high in kinetic potential and so on. Eventually, science will so and has found the metric measurement limit in the Planck parameters and the string models to describe the quantum physics of a selftransforming metric. 

So the material universe becomes 'explainable' in the models of the energy transformations of the string bosons (say). This leaves us with associating the nonmaterial ancestor with the genesis of the say planck-parameters, the nature of fundamental constants like c and h and k and pi and e and so on.   Then abstraction and mathematics with zeroes and infinities enters the fray and with it the worlds of 'purity of thought'.   So now the question becomes: 'What is a thought?'   It must have energy or energy equivalence, otherwise it could not have resulted in a material cosmology of Big bangs and strings. 

So the energy of thoughts become ancestral and prerequisite for anything material to exist.   And who thinks?   Well, people do and most likely fauna and flora does to in graduated forms of electric- and magnetic self- and mutual inductions (say called instinct and rationality via perception of the senses etc.).   So if people are in a manner ancestral to their bodies, where did they come from?   Well, the bodies came from genetic encodings, which in a sense are reducible to 'programs of pure thought' and so can be made nonmaterial in origin.   So again, people must be reducible to 'pure thought' as ancestral energy and have a 'common origin' in the say PRIMAL THOUGHT of some idea or manifesto of some I AM MYSELF and.. and.. and...   Ergo, one can introduce spirituality as the universal 'Impulse of Remembrance' of that selfsame I AM connecting all thinkers of thoughts UNIVERSALLY. 

So if the atheist says: 'God is just a Thought'!; heshe is absolutely correct.   But the skeptic himself is just such a God or Thought herhimself also.  

And Descartes': COGITO ERGO SUM! or I Think therefore I am! becomes a most appropriate selfexpression of the Universal Primal I AM ITSELF.  

Tony B.
   

The 'Seat' of the 'Soul' according to the string physics of Quantum Relativity (QR)
 
Much controversy revolves around the concept of the Cartesian mind-body duality and the ideas of an immortal part of a living entities colloquially and historically termed 'soul'.
 
Four references from the KJV Christian bible read as translated.
 
Genesis.2.7: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".
 
Genesis.2.5: "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb in the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."
 
Genesis.1.21: "And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantely, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
 
Genesis.1.11: "And God said, Let the earth bring bring forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the fruit tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
 
 
 
It is proposed in QR; that the sciptural accounts describing creation in actuality reflect an encoding of a story, which can today be translated into the nomenclature of modern physical theory.
 
So the 'seed in itself' translates as the programming of the DNA inherent in the sexual chromosomes of reproduction in modern genetics.
sorts.
This then implies, that the 'Lord God' and as the creator somehow must be responsible for this 'programming' as say the primordial and/or underpinning and/or intrinsic intelligence or mind for this 'creation' and 'before it materialised' in the Big Bang cosmology and the creation of space and time et al.
 
Furthermore, man (and all lifeforms in flora and fauna say before it) does in fact derive from 'the dust of the ground'; namely as the first selfreplicating biovital precursors in the Darwinian evolution in the form of clay-crystals.
The growth of crystalline inorganic structures can be shown to relate to chiral differentiation with say the biochemistry of DNA manifesting in righthanded sugars and lefthanded proteins. Also this can be further examined and analysed in the weak parity violation of the weak nuclear interaction and so the asymmetry between matter and antimatter in fundamental particle physics.
Subsequently, nature's favouring of compacting information in its most efficient manner possible leads to geometric forms for the selfreplication of crystalline structures to proceed; say as in the well established form of fivefolded symmetries in the Fibonacci patterns of quasicrystals and the more regular packing arrangements as say embodied in the five Platonic Solids: Tetrahedron, Cube, Octahedron, Dodecahedron and Icosahedron. 
 
The topic of this post is however a particular 'decoding' of the scriptures; namely why are 'whales' mentioned in the genesis account and in context with the 'moving creatures', say as distinct of the 'stationary' trees?
 
First, the informed reader might realise certain biological anomalies.
 
Only whales share something termed the female human menopause with scriptural 'man' (meaning mankind as male with the female as a bisexual unity).
 
Secondly, whilst the evolutionary historical record shows diversity in the great mammals generally having 'shrunk' in size; the whales have greatly 'expanded'.
 
A mammoth; a dimetrodon, a wooly rhino and a smilodon; all clearly show scaled-up versions of the modern elephant, the modern rhinoceros and the modern lion say.
 
But the ancestry of whales is believed to derive from landdwelling Mesonychids, which were doglike carniverous ungulates (one-hoofed) and from ancestors of the hippopotamus in artiodactyla (hippopotamidae) of the early paleocene about 60 million years ago.
 
Basilosaurus cetoides (and say Zyggorhiza Kochii) were primitive whales in the Eocene oceans, about 40 million years ago, having returned to the aquatic environment, say 50 million years ago.
 
Those primitive whales, as cetaceans, then 'split' about 35 million years ago into evolved into the toothless baleen whales and the toothed dolphins, porpoises, killer whales and sperm whales of today.
 
The greatest and most massive mammal that has ever existed still exists today under threat of extinction - the Blue Whale of say 150 tonnes in weight and 30-40 meters in length.
 
One blue whale was dated as being over 200 years old and their average lifespan is the same as that for the human in so 70-100 years.
 
So is there a familial relationship between humans and whales? Modern whales are related to pachyderms in the hippopotami and some 'decipherers' of scripture identify the biblical 'behemoth' of the Book of Job with the hippopotamus and the Leviathan of that book with the whale.
 
Actually, according to QR, the Jobian mythological creatures relate to something rather different, namely the Mazzaroth or Circle of Ourobos as the 'zodiac' of the 'Milky Way'; but this has been discussed elsewhere. 
 
But according to the cosmogenesis of QR; the Big Bang occurred 19.11 billion years ago following 'stringed inflationary epoch'.
 
This inflation ended at the 'instanton of time', namely to=3.33..x10-31 seconds after 'Planck-Time' and related in the cycletime n=Ho.t. This quantises a linear 'flow of time' as dn/dt=Ho~1.88x10-18  Hz and as a superposed 'cosmic frequency' for the expansion of the universe (as a nodal Hubble-Constant of 58 km/Mpc.s say).
 
This marker, initialising the thermodynamic Big Bang as a Planck Black-Body Radiator; then manifests a 'Unified Field' (UF) of the four gauge interactions (Gravitation, Electromagnetism and the two nuclear interactions).
 
This UF manifests the merging of two opposing wavefunctions, which repeats in intervals of 8π radians and manifests the gauge interactions as a collection of monopolic current 'knots' or 12 intersection-points.
 
As the timeinstanton defines the c-invariance in lightpath x=cto and as a wavelength (lambda) say; one can now metricate the minimum displacement as a Schwarzschild Radius in say General Relativity and giving a boundary/initial condition for the relativistic Big Bang.
 
Setting 4 Lambda=(8π.ro)=2GM/c2, then specifies the 'Black Holed' inertia or mass as Mmin=4π.ro.c2/G=162,000 kg in the QR calculation, using string parameters.
 
What does this mean?
 
This means that any mass observed and measured in the universe can be differentiated in terms of its Black-Hole equivalence.
 
A classical Black Hole would become limited in an 'ordinary' manifested mass of 162 tonnes and as the precise mapping of the 'Unified Field' onto a subsequent cosmic evolution, which began over 19 billion years ago and in a sense defining the 'finiteness' of the universe, compared to its stringed 'pretime'.
 
So any of the 'living moving creatures' of the scriptural account would PRECEDE the manifestation of a physical universe as the 'seeds of themselves', now translated into modern semantics as the Black Hole inertia equivalents, which in QR are also monopolic and superconductive source-currents.
 
So if 162 tonnes is a minimum and say as the scale of the most massive living creature that ever existed; what then is the minimum scale of such a creature?.
 
As the 162 tonnes specify a maximum in say the baleen whale as the END of the inflationary string epoch; the minimum is necessarily defined in the beginning of that epoch and so in the Planck-Mass MP=√(hc/2πG)~1.6x10-8 kg.
 
Should one use the mass of a human preembryo at implantation of the blastocyst (100-150 cells) at say 7 days after fertilisation as a marker; then using cellular mitosis at the twelfth division - after the creation of the first generation of the daughter cells from the parental spermatozoa and ovum -of the (totipotent) stem cells; the Planck-Mass is also attained.
Here one uses a characteristic cellular mass of 1 nanogram for 214=16,384 cells for a total mass of 16,384 nanograms.
 
So the lightest 'living creature' should weigh about the Planck-Mass and is found in the world of the microbes.
 
The Etruscan Shrew (of thumbsize) is described as the lightest living mammal, weighing 2 grams; the lightest vertebrate is often said to be the stout infantfish  (of so 8 mm) at one milligram and the lightest insects are say fairy flies (hymenoptera, wasps), which also weigh in the milligram region and the millimeter scale of size.
 
The smallest invertebrata can be smaller, then the largest protozoa, say the bacterium paramecium (350 micrometers) as compared to a fairy flie of 200 micrometers.
 
Microscopic mites like Archegozetes Iongesetosus  (from taxonomy of acari and arachnids) weighs 100 micrograms and is often called the 'strongest animal in the world', as it can lift over 1182 times its own bodyweight (expected value is about five times). Such microorganisms date back to the Devonian era of so 400 million years ago and still dominate the overall lifeform in number on the planet.
 
But Archegozetes Iongesetosus is a 'larger' mite at half a millimeter  and at 10-7 kg and smaller mites reduce to less than one tenth of a millimeter.
 
This reduction in size corresponds to a say fivefolded reduction in mass and now characterises the Planck-Mass of so 16 micrograms.
 
So what am I saying?
 
I claim, that say the extreme forms of inertia found on the planet, say the 162 ton baleen whale and the tropic mite at 20 microgram, are both related to the creation of the universe before space and time existed - as DNA/RNA templates or architectural blueprints subject to evolutionary genetic mutation or similar.
 
And this is just, what the scriptures claim in genesis. The 'seeds' existed, before they were planted.
 
And the human scale of say 50-100 kg is near the geometric mean of the two extremes at √(162x103x1.6x10-8)~0.051 kg by a factor of 1000 - the mean describing a 'weight' of 51 grams (a typical chocolate bar or a small bird).
 
So where then is the location of the 'souls'?
 
The souls of all 'living things' are located inside the Black Holes of their inertia equivalence.
And as this equivalence predates the Big Bang, the 'souls' of living entitities from mite to blue whale must also predate the materially manifested universe in the selfsame primordial 'mind' or 'cosmic intelligence', which programmed the 'seeds' in say the genetic encoding and which is historically known under many labelings, including that of the 'Lord God'.
 
Subsequently, when a mite or blue whale 'dies', the information 'collected' as say 'memory' in 'consciousness' throughout its 'lifecycle' will become 'processable' in a scenario transcending space and time in a 'return to the sourcing of the seeds'.
 
Tony B.

--- In Panentheism@yahoogroups.com, "Herbert B. Borteck"
<hbborteck@...> wrote:
>
> Fantastic hypothesis, Tony. Are you saying that there is a sort
> of 'blueprint soul' from which all others are made and to which
they
> return?
>
> I don't really understand inertia, but I think I was able to grasp
> most of what you were alluding to above.
>
> Thanks,
> April
>

TonyB.: Yes April, and this blueprint is the same 'thing' from which the entire universe was born. It is the 'singularity' of mathematical physics as well as the 'source of all things' of the ancients, as well as the 'IAm' of Moses' 'burning bush' in Exodus.3.14 as the 'most holy of names' as well as the 'IAM' of omniscience of the New Ager.


Because this 'singularity' is responsible of having 'made' space and time from itself; it was described by the ancient mind of insight (gnosis=scientia=knowledge) as some 'LIGHT moving out of its own darkness to create all things.

This is just like the mythology described in genesis. So the 'bible bashers' in a sense are not far off the 'truth' at all. Using GNOSIS=SCIENCE=INSIGHT, one can DECIPHER the mythologies in just a manner which reductionistic science can (and will imo) eventually accept as its own ontology.


The trouble is that any mythology becomes by necessity FILTERED by the 'decoder'.

So saying, that the 'spirit of God' moved across the void (which is the same as the Greek Chaos differentiating into Uranus=Sky and Gaea=Earth or the Egyptian twinship of  Geb=Sky with Nut=Earth) can and has been interpreted in many ways, including in exoteric (open and outward for the masses as Jesus or similar adepts would have said) and an esoteric (hidden or occult and inward for the disciples as Jesus or similar adepts would have said).

Then the so called sceptics and antispiritualists lose impartiality in critisizing the exotericism of say the dogma-bound religions as being undifferentiated from the esoteric interpretations (reserved for the 'disciples' or whatever).


Stephen and Herb's addresses below relate to this. Both are fundamentally correct in their critiques.

Stephen and Herb here actually converge in stating that the biblical 'soul' refers to the 'breath of life'. But this is precisely what I have said in quoting Genesis.2.7.; and which I then 'deciphered' in terms of modern physics.


One can see here what I mean by 'filtering' of the decoders.


Stephen justifiably draws upon his own database of his gnosis and differentiates between spirit and soul and then applies his brand of esoteric alchemy (as genuine part of the perennial philosophy) to describe say the harmony of the elements.

His spherical 'merkabah' is the same as the 'singularity' of QR above; it is the same as the Circle of Vitruvian Man of Leonardo da Vinci or the 'Cosmic Box' of the Hinus 'Purusha' (or 'Cosmic Man').


Stephen now could even go further in showing parallels between 'spirituality' and reductionist science.


Namely, he could invoke the destructive nature of Oxygen as the 'breath of life' and so the dual nature of being both life-giving as 'food for the brain' and as the 'fuel for combustion' and as destroyer in say that same combustive chemistry.


Herb is also correct in his critique, as the 'breath of life' can be said to be the 'soul' of ANYTHING LIVING after dispensation from 'God'.

And this is just what I tried to explain in my post. Namely, that all living things are 'made' from say 'Nature's DNA/RNA Code of Life' and manouver in between minimum and maximum boundaries which can so be utilised by modern science to further their classification procedures.


Herb misses the major point of reducing the 'God' which say 'by his spirit' gave the 'soul' to the living things to something inherent in the created beings themselves.

It is Herb's responsibility to justify his 'godless' nature in showing how this 'soul' came to be the 'motor of life' so to speak.

To then say, that science is still learning and trying to find out is to 'hide' behind the ignorance he so easily dispenses onto the peoples of faith and 'believers' in the database and libraries of the myths.


Lastly, April's question on the 'souls return to their source' requires deeper analysis.


Logically, all speculations must be selfconsistent and should also be reducible to a basic simplicity.


So the 'singularity' is in fact defined in a generalised way by many thinkers, ancient and new. One can term it the 'Lord God' or the Big Bang Singularity of a Planck-Superstring or the Source-Energy of the IAMTHATIAM or whatever.

Note here an important FACT. God is God UNTIL he has created his own image in Man (AdamEve) and RENAMES himself as the Lord God thenceafter. Why? Because Adam has now become God as his Veritas Eikona (Perfect or True Image), being empowered to NAME all the created fauna and flora in the manner of scientific classifications and taxonomies etc. etc.(Gen.2.4,20).


God's Spirit becomes the ENERGY, not only of his own selfdefinition (after emerging out of his opwn darkness or void by becoming AWARE of himself); but also of the lifesustaining 'breath of life' dispensed to his environment (say Stephen's bubble of being, which is Isaiah's 'Vessel of the Lord', Noah's Ark, the New Age Merkabah, Moses' 'Ark of the Covenant' and the 'Body of Christ' as the 'Body of the Church' in the eucharist etc. etc.).


Modern science then will one day discover, that this 'spirit of God' is closely related to the foundations of the physical sciences in being the boundary for spacetime as metric limit - limiting to what displacement scale measurements can be reduced.


Because of this, all science must eventually converge at its source of origin and it will then become understood what 'God' truly is and always was.

Namely, God can only be the energy reservoir for everything that exist, did or can exist including all thoughts, memories, speculations, dreams and inventions.

BUT, this energy reservoir must necessarily be independent on physical parameters such as space and time and mass.

So, modern science must CHANGE its paradigm of reducing everything to spacetimematter and REPLACE this with a reduction to the ENERGY equaivalence of this spacetimematter.

This will DEFINE 'God' unmistakenly, as all global science will find commonality and reproducibility through the scientific methodology.


I can elaborate if asked specific questions on this and have already often done so in my posts.


So the 'souls' are REDUCED energy concentrations independent on mass and space and time. Whilst 'enlivening' some 'vessel of life' (and a vessel of the lord in terms onf man as the image); the 'souls' ARE the living entity, might it be an ant or a dolphin or a child.

Their 'souls' are however CONNECTED to the source of all in their ENERGY EQUIVALENCE, say modelled on Black Hole physics.


As the entire inertial universe is most definitively describable as a "Mother Black Hole' (because the critical density in General Relativity demands a harmony between elementary parameters in first principles); whatever is contained in this universe is automatically bilocated in terms of the INFORMATION procressing of this selfsame universe.


The boundary of the universe is colocated with the centre (and just as Stephen propounds in his 'merkabah'-sphere).

This means, that all information in between is MAPPED onto the surface (of the so called Hubble Horizon of the universe so 17 billion lightyears from the Big Bang centre) and from where it is 'processed' by the centre.


So the 'return of the souls' is rendered as a REMEMBRANCE or RECOGNISANCE of the 'souls' which had embarked on a journey, of say into embodiment, to discover more of their 'own identity' as the vertias eikonas of their source.


There is of course much more to all of this and certain elucidations can be found in the postings of Tony B. and on my site (where the mathematical symbols print properly).


PS.: Btw, I have elaborated on the Planck-Mass, linking it to embryogenesis in human gestation in my last post.


Tony B.














Excellent points. Very intelligently written Tony! What a great mind
you have friend! However, I would like to add my two cents in - now
I'm not syaing you are wrong, or that your exegisis is flawed, but
according to my sources the breath of life that was breathed
[inspired] into the nostrils of man is the spirit - not the soul.
There is a difference. [The word inspire is related to the word
spirit, and inspire means to breathe in. That is why often times you
will hear someone say, in the same sentence, that scripture is
inspired by the holy spirit, that is, it is God breathed.] In what I
practice, the element of air represents the spirit and higher
intellect, and may be depicted as an eye in the clouds. The soul is
akin to mans will - it is a projection of thought, or illumination
just as fire projects its light. It just so happens that the fire of
the soul consumes the flesh unto death, just as a flame consumes a
log - in other words the nature of the soul destroys the flesh.

Stephen>



>
> Genesis.2.7: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the
ground,
> and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became
a
> living soul".
> KJV
>
> The King James version of the bible is full of mistakes.
> The true interpretations of Genesis 2.7 is:
>
> from the Tanakh [a Jewish source]
> "the Lord God formed man from the dust of the earth. He blew into
> his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being.
>
> from the New Jerusalem Bible [a Catholic source]
> "Yahweh God shaped man from the soil of the ground and blew the
> breath of life into his nostrils, and man became a living being."
>
> In either case, "the breath of life" is interpreted as the "soul."
> In other words, the soul is that which animated life, and
therefore
> all organisms which have life, has a soul.
> When one dies, the soul is gone, kaput, finished. There is no
> memory existing in space. Memory only exists in the brains of
> living organisms.
> Herb
>



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://tonyb.freeyellow.com and http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/quantumrelativity
 

 


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