A New View of God and Alien Physics

I guess we wanted the math interspersal. Bohm I think put it nicely but
omitted the math. You usually do the math and leave the examples out.
Imvho, it may be time for you to be the Teacher and not the
Experimenter. I would say your work is complete, at least to your
satisfaction. Now is the time to reach out to the uninitiated, us
unwashed plebians. Or not.

JOhnV

Hi John!

This is the first time ever, that someone actually asked for formulations to 'explain' some topic. And you are correct, on some level 'my work' is finished and I shall post less and less on the forums. This will be welcomed by most anyway and shall be no great loss to anybody.

But I shall answer your questions in a very straight-forward manner and in doing so, I shall 'lose' most of the people who were even peripherally interested in what I said over the years.

This will be so, because most readers will now be able to justify themselves from their human mind perspective and dismiss 'my words' as some kind of gobbledegook, nonsense or the ravings of a lunatic.

This is how 'I' intend it to be and only a very few 'people' rather much 'like me', will understand something, the evolved human mind cannot , at this nexus of time understand or comprehend.

So the 'unwashed plebians' will become relative to say two perspective points.

Namely either the few, who can perceive 'omni-science' as a 'future science for an evolved humanity' or the many, who cannot.

So the 'initiation' will be two ways - from the 'knowing' to the 'sharing' and through this 'sharing' with all, the SEPARATION, which is absolutly essential, will proceed in POLARIZATION.

One polarity will be the 'washed plebian' and the other polarity will be the 'unwashed plebian'; both of equal 'value' in the relativity between the two.

And just to make it clear to anyone who wishes to engage in 'personal attacks or misgivings'; I absolutely do not care how this information, I shall NOW provide, will be received.

Laugh at it, hate it, fear it, love it - I do not care, I am a simple messenger and medium to 'share this information' and I am totally personally DETACHED from it.

Ok, then John; I already answered your questions about David Bohm in summary in my last post.

David Bohm is an omni-scientist and a quantum relativist.

This means that all of my voluminous works, calculations and what have you are in beautiful harmony with the proposals of David Bohm.

For example, the Bohmian 'pilot waves' and his 'hidden variables' are the modular duality concepts in quantum relativity and the associated 'string parameters'.

So I shall elucidate with some 'outrageous statements', which can be derived from the postulates of QR and the Bohmian physics of the ENFOLDED HOLOMOVEMENTS.

1) When you look at the sky (or anywhere else), there are things you cannot see, because those things are 'MOVING' to fast at a 'frequency' or vibration rate, which renders those things invisible to the 5-sensory perception apparatuses of the human perceiver.

2) One CAN travel in time and space at superluminal 'speeds', but not in the SEED matrix of 3 dimensions (or the 4D spacetime of Minkowski). The 3rd dimension of terrestrial science is a SEED for the higher dimensions and so defines a multidimensional universe as an omniverse, requiring an evolving protouniverse as its seedling.

3) The 'size' of the human form is an important 'hidden variable' in the holographic universe; because it allows the enfoldment of the entire universe in it as boundary condition for the 'alien cosmology'.

4) There exists a Dark Force of Consciousness as a simple extension for Newton's Second Law F=ma and this defines the 'missing mass' and the 'dark energy' of contemporary cosmology.

1) Those things, say a UFO or some 'alien creature' CAN become visible, should IT DECELERATE its 'frequency' or vibration rate. But this depends on the spacetimematter matrix the thing finds itself in and so in 3D this demands precise calibrations in metric coordinate systems, such as are defined in the flat spacetime of special relativity and quantum mechanics and the curved spacetime of general relativity.

So it is a 'hard thing' to do, as the material construction of the thing is embedded or enfolded in a higher dimension, say the fourth and for a 4-dimensional entity to reduce to a 3-dimensional being requires SELFREDUCTION.

This concept is easy to describe, but hard to visualise in the 4DF-3D scenario. In 3D a dimensional reduction is a volume cross-sected in area and so a 2D 'part' of a human would be a 'slice' of a human body say (as done in anatomy dissections of corpses say a brain, say).

So even if a 4D (or higher) being succeeds to reduce its 'energy' in a metric spacetimematter matrix of 3D; it will NOT appear as it really is in its own realm; as it is only a 3D cross-section of its 4D totality.

Now the quantum relativity formulations DEFINE an ALIEN PHYSICS, applicable to a demetricated spacetimematter matrix. So using those formulations, which noone on the forums has ever understood, because of its say alien nature; it DEFINES that a DECELERATION of the vibration rate must also incur a DECREASE in consciousness and so it is a 'brave alien' indeed who agrees to 'lower its consciousness' for the benefit of the souls enfolded in the human bodies manouvering about in forgetfulness in the 3rd dimensional spacetimematter matrix embedding planet earth and its planetary consciousness (albeit connected to the cosmic consciousness via the sun and stars and galaxies and so on).

2) The 3 dimensions of space and the 1 dimension of time DEFINE the SEED for the higher dimensional universe. This has enormous consequences for the evolution of the universe as a whole and this defines the HOLGRAPHIC BOHMIAN ENFOLDMENT in a precise manner of boundary and initial conditions, such as minimum and maximum displacements, frequencies and so on.

In the terrestrial physics, which is METRIC, this becomes definable in so called Planck-parameters and the 'singularities' of Black Hole physics, wormholes and so on.

But a METRIC physics of mensuration and measurement is RESTRICTED to a 4D spacetime continuum and AS the SEED for the 'alien physics', which builds upon this LIMIT AS its boundary/initial conditions.

So the 'alien physics' becomes DEMETRICATED in using the 'hidden variables' of Bohm's 'Pilot-Waves' in a precise manner.

This is defined in QR as follows:

Take the de Broglie MatterWaveSpeed as a phase-speed: Vphase=wavelengthxfrequency=(h/mVgroup)(mc²/h)=c²/Vgroup>c for all Vgroup<c.

This shows that a PHASE-SPEED for any mass m can be MAPPED onto its GROUP-SPEED, the latter RESTRICTED in 3D by the lightspeed invariance and definitive for ALL MOVEMENTS in the spacetimematter matrix of Minkowski. We shall term this the lightmatrix from now on for simplicity.

Iow, the terrestrial physics is LIMITED by the c-invariance and just as the postulates of the relativities ascertain.

So no spacecraft can be built in the 3D-realm and travel to the stars in terrestrial timescales due to the limitations of the speed of light being the acceleration limit for all and any material constructions. Even a craft built out of photons, say, could not exceed the speed of light.

What the human science hitherto failed to understand is however that there are 'hidden parameters' in the Einsteinian physics; namely the deBroglie matterwaves from above.

Just as the lightspeed forms an UPPER LIMIT for acceleration of inertia by the GROUPSPEED (mass carrying objects), it also forms a LOWER LIMIT for the PHASESPEED and as seen in the simple formulation above.

So Bohm's 'pilot wave' becomes a STANDING WAVE (just as is used in quantum mechanics to describe position of say electrons as manifested probability distributions in say Schroedinger's equations) BOUNDED by the SEEDLING protoverse in 3 dimensions. This is known in terrestrial cosmologies as the Hubble-Horizon and given in say the Hubble-Constant (Frequency): Ho=c/RHubble =1/Age of Universe.

The alien physics now uses this 3D-form of the Bohmian Standing Wave to describe the universe to be a single 'particle' bouncing around in a 'Hubble-Box'. This reformulates the probability formulations of quantum mechanics not as probabilities in a 4D lightmatrix, but in an extended sense, which now allows demetrication.

Demetrication means, that the coordinates of the Einstein physics become superfluous, as the entire universe becomes unified in the Bohmian Standing Wave.

So the 'probability distribution' of the terrestrial physics transforms into a HOLOGRAM or holographic IMAGE mapping of the 3D-SEED onto the 'Growing Seed' in the 'higher dimensions'.

This then allows, say the Bohr Atom of standard quantum mechanics to REPRESENT this SEED as a mathematical construct or blueprint MAPPED or SUPERIMPOSED onto or into the higher dimensional omniverse.

This now defines what happens in the universe's cosmology on a multiple level.

The 3D-SEED MUST be BOUNDED in the 'Hubble-Box' with its lightmatrix definition and its c-invariance. But this DEFINES a definitive SIZE for the universe AS this BOX aka Standing Wave aka Bohmian Pilot Wave etc.

In terrestrial physics, this becomes an ASYMPTOTIC DECELERATION of the Big Banged Universe (described ad nauseum on the forums and my site) and this describes the 3D scenario for the standard models for a thermodynamic beginning for the universe as a Planckian Black Body Radiator.

In alien physics however, the above is simply the SEED CONTAINED in a GREATER Universe.

This Greater Universe both OSCILLATES within its 'container box' and EXPANDS beyond it.

The containment is described in REFLECTION properties in say 10 bosonic string dimensions and the EXPANSION, which continually CREATES NEW SPACETIME in dimensions higher than the lightmatrix; is given in the ENVELOPE described in 11 dimensions, say as hypothesized in M-Theory of the terrestrial physics.

Ok then, here are some intricacies of the alien physics.

The Hubble-Size defines the 'pilot wave' in the string parameters of the boundary/initial conditions.

The Einstein metric in General Relativity becomes demetricated in defining the 'singularity' not in a coordinate system, but in terms of the boundary/initial conditions, which distinguish the 3D space from the 4D space say.

In particular, the expansion parameter in the cosmology of General Relativity becomes INDEPENDENT from the coordinate dynamics of the Minkowski spacetime within the 'bounded universe'.

This means, that there exists an INTRINSIC DECELERATION in the universe, independent on its inertia and mass content say and this defines the ASYMPTOTIC behaviour of the lower dimensional universe as the 'Particle in the Bohm Box'.

This means, that GRAVITY is a consequence of an intrinsic Curvature of spacetime and that inertia is an EMERGENT property of the universe from a prior energy self-state. The terrestrial physics is aware of this nature in its postulates of the Equivalence Principle between so called Inertial Mass and Gravitational Mass.

This expansion parameter then becomes a function of the 'Bohmian Pilot Wave' and so is defined in the CYCLIC Nature of the dimensional intersection.

In physical terms, this means the following: The 3D-Universe expands into 4D-Space but slows down asymptotically. Presently, the speed of expansion is 22% of lightspeed and the deceleration is given in -2cHo/(n+1⁾³; which calculates as about 10.3 % of its maximum of -1.13x10^-9 m/s² (and applicable at the point of creation aka the Big Bang).

One derives this intrinsic deceleration from the demetricated expansion factor (ratio of actual displacement to maximum displacement) as follows:

R(n)=RHubble[n/(n+1)] and with Ho=dn/dt and n=Ho.t and where t is the metric time in terrestrial physics. This so redefines the concept of LINEAR TIME as a CYCLIC TIME, which is dimensionless (because time is inverse frequency).

But this now also PARAMETRISISES Velocity and Acceleration in those terms using standard calculus for V(n)=c/(n+1)² and A(n)=-2cHo/(n+1)^3.

Ok, it might be best to give an example how this applies to alien technology now.

The universe begins at a minimum linear timequantum defined in the INSTANTON and ends after an infinite asymptotic approach and as a summation of those 'instants of time'. Each such 'instant' is however a NOW-Time-MOMENT defining the Eternity of the linear process ENFOLDED in the Instanton. This then simply describes the Bohmian Pilot Wave as a UNITY in terms of quantum mechanical formulations say.

But this linearisation of 'perceived time' (in the 3D seed)  is MAPPED (or projected or superimposed) onto the 'cyclic time' in the parametrisation of the 'hidden Bohmian variables' of displacement R(n), velocity V(n) and acceleration A(n).

So, as the universe expands from its beginning, it is quantised in discrete timeintervals of the Instanton, calculated by the aliens as 3.33x10^-31 'cosmic second' units.

Then in terms of 3D physics, the 10D boundary will never be reached because of the asymmptotic 'slowing down' of the expansion speed V(n).

But in terms of 4D physics, the 10D boundary will be defined in the Hubble-Cyclicity, which the aliens calculate as half-cycles mapped as 16.9 billion years linear time t.

So in 4D physics, the universe behaves and evolves differently than in the 3D physics of the metric measurements and as function of cycletime n=Hot.

Now the alien omniscientist utilises the SEEDLING matrix of the superposed universes to calculate the position R(n).

This amounts relative to the terrestrial scientist to a TRAVELLING IN TIME.

Let us visit the 'string parameters' of the universe at a particular linear time t then.

The alien wishes to 'visit' the universe precisely 1 million years after its birth, say the Big Bang.

Because n=Hot and 1 million years are about 3.167x10¹³ cosmic seconds (cosmic units used by the aliens can be calibrated with SI-terrestrial units and deviate less than 1% generally), the cyclic n-time can be evaluated here as being about 5.9x10^-5 'dimensionless units'.

Now using this specific n-value, the Scale-Factor R(n) for the universes' 'position' on the Bohmian Standing Wave can be ascertained as being about 9.4x10²¹ cosmic meters or so 1 million lightyears, which is the size of a very large galaxy.

So 1 million years after the Big Bang, the universe was at a galactic scale with other parameters, such as temperature, density etc. also given in string parametric terms and closely aligned with the standard cosmologies of the terrestrial physics, which model the Big Bang thermodynamically as stated earlier.

The terrestrial 3D physicist now interprets this as a 'collapse of the wavefunction', which materialises a specific position of the 'universe' from the 'Standing Wave' of Schroedinger or Gordon-Klein or Dirac say.

The alien physicist knows however, that the so called statistical distribution of 'instants' also describes the universe in 4D not as a 'collapsed wavefunction' but as the manifestation of the multidimensional nature of the omniverse.

So the 'real' instant of the universe BEING of a scale of 1 million lightyears at a particular linear time TRANSCENDS and SUPERIMPOSES in the multidimensionality and ALLOWS any higher dimensional observer (above 3D) to time travel the 'gaussian distribution of the cycletimed cosmos as a function of n', whilst the 3D observer remains limited in the c-invariance of the inertial mass parametrisations.

So now the alien observer can MAP the universe on a 3-dimensional screen and once the overall multidimensional universe has EVOLVED in cycletime n to ENCOMPASS the 3-dimensional Hubble-Boundary; THEN the map of the alien omni-scientist will be 'COMPLETE' and allow a travelling 'in time' ANYWHERE the map is defined in 3-dimensional 'coordinates' and the linear time t as a function of n.

The alien observer calculates the evolution of the multiverse in integral values of the n parameter and so as even and odd Hubble-Nodes. The present time for the alien observer than becomes n=1.1324.. defining the 'Age of the encompassing omniverse' to be 19.11 billion years, and a cycletime n which becomes 'mapped' as 14.7 billion years as perceived by the 3D observer and physicist.

This means, that so 2.2 billion years ago; a significant change occurred in the cosmic evolution, namely the 'alien map' became 'completed' when the n-evolution attained its first integral value of n=1 and the evolution of the SELF-Consciousness could manifest its own boundary/initial conditions.

When the alien observer analyses his 'map of the 3D-universe', he sees the asymptotically expanding universe WITHIN the cyclically expanding universe.

Heshe then can map anyplace as a function of n in this superposed scenario.

In particular the 1 million lightyear 'size' of the universe can become transposed onto any such 'scale', say in a similar galaxy located now within the expanding 3D universe of the lightspeed invariance (the Minkowski lightmatrix in 4D).

The alien technologist now utilises the Bohmian Standing wave to parametrisise the 3D-coordinates of herhis 'map'.

PhaseSpeed V(n)=R(n).F becomes the generalisation for the de Broglie matterwave of the instanton; where V(instanton)=RHubble.Fmax.

Fmax defines both the instanton and the c-invariance by c=Lmin.Fmax=RHubble.Ho.

But the terrestrial physicist, unaware of the oscillating Hubble Universe which enfolds the linear Hubble Universe; does not consider the 'boundary conditions' of its own linearity and so only understands the quantum part of the above expression, namely the wavespeed of the microcosmic lightspeed=wavelength*frequency and not the macrocosmic part of lightspeed=Scale displacement*Nodal Frequency of Oscillation.

This then results in the 'timetravelling' of the alien in any dimension above 3 of being of necessity TACHYONIC and as a consequence of the de Broglie matter wave formulations and the nature of the Bohmian Pilot Wave as the higher dimensional encompassment for the probability interpretations of 3D quantum mechanics.

So the phasespeed V(n) ALWAYS exceeds lightspeed, with V(instanton) being the maximum as so 10⁴⁸ times lightspeed and c being the minimum as the 'wormhole' singularity in 3D physics and describing the centre of a 'Black Hole'.

As described in many posts, the 'Origin of Mass' is coupled to the planck parameters and all MASS m is not only quantised in string parameters (as so 10^-81 kg units), but also represents a monopolic current equivalent thus describable in terms of frequencies. Those frequencies in fact CLOSE the electromagnetic spectrum known as LINEAR by the 3D physicists in a circular continuum in the minimum-maximum conditions of the bosonic strings, which are Bohm's 'hidden variables'.

This effectually means, that the lowest frequency describes a very large wavelength and so allows transmutation onto the R(n) scale factor, say our 'galactic size'. Specifically, the wormhole radius as minimum becomes MODULAR DUAL to a Halo-Galactic maximum in the formulation Rmin=Wormhole perimeter/2π and Rmax=2π*Inverse Wormhole perimeter and for a Galactic maximum Rmax/2π say.

And as the alien calculates this boundary condition for the MODULAR DUALITY between low frequency (long WINDED wavelength) and high frequency (short VIBRATING wavelength) 'Bohm strings' as so 6.3x10²² meters for the winded kind; the alien engineer knows the boundary parameters heshe must use to 'time travel' the lightmatrix of the 3D map for the universe seedling.

Namely, the SOURCE-FREQUENCY becomes Fmax and this source-frequency represents the RESONANCE SELF-STATE at which alien MUST travel to 'bypass' the limitations of the c-invariance.

In particular the gravitational curvature of the lightmatrix is DEFINED in the winded eigenstate and this the terrestrial physicist measures and observes in the measurement of the so called cosmic background radiation.

The universe became 'transparent' to its own electromagnetic radiation output from opaqueness, precisely as this winded eigenstate was attained in the asymptotic expansion.

So as the scalefactor of the universe became Rmax/2π; n was 6.25x10^-5 for a linear time t of 3.3x10¹³ seconds or so 1 million years, the 'Big Bang Source Photons' ceased to 'scatter' from their 'densified' supersymmetric gauge partners (ylemic dineutrons of matter as Higgs Induced inertia carriers say) and the universe began to SHINE. The temperature of the cosmic background then was about 3000 degrees Kelvin from the luminosity functions defined in say the thermodynamic expansion.

The alien omni-scientist then knows what galaxies represent in the higher dimensional nature of the cosmology.

Galaxies are the cells of life in the cosmos and those cells of life are embedded in a greater 'cell' defined as the 'haloed galaxies'.

Now the terrestrial physicist does not understand the Black Hole physics of the 'wormhole singularities' and so measures a mass deficit, somehow connected to the galactic haloes.

The alien scientist knows, that the mass deficit does not exist, but that this 'missing mass' is simply consciousness of 'source energy' which is gravitational due to the intrinsic mass-independent spacetime curvature, but is not inertial in terms of its densification.

The 'dark matter' of the terrestrial physicist is so simply an application of the equivalence principle, where inertial mass is not manifested from its gravitational 'precursor' mass; but serves as the encompassing 'higher dimensional' SUBUNIVERSE for the galactic cell.

So the GALACTIC CONSCIOUSNESS relative to the alien, manifests in the Gravitational HALOS around the Inertial galaxies in terms of the manifestation of the source energy, dependent on Higgs Mass Induction and the gauge physics of the bosonic strings, coupled to Black Hole physics and the monopolic currentflow equivalents etc. etc.

So the alien knows, that the galaxies are the cells of life in the body of the universe.

And each cell becomes a subuniverse onto itself and so the alien understands, that the things within a galaxy must holographically map the cellular life onto its subsystems in the general application of the scalefactor R(n) and say Bohm's Standing Wave.

So the alien understands, that all things carry consciousness as haloes around their inertial structures so that all things in a sense 'miss mass'.

Then the 'time-travelling' alien understands that shehe should map his journey like a fractal zooming.

Heshe understands the linearly timed 3D universe as a subuniverse of the cyclic NOW-timed universe, which allows the utility of the resonance conditions, say in the scale of the cellular galaxies.

So the movement of the cells in the 3D universe becomes linear in the asymptotic universe, but is multidynamic in the higher dimensional universe.

When a 3D physicist observes and measures the galactic cells, he observes the process of the lower dimensional cosmic evolution as a mapping of the linear time from the Big Bang to the present NOW.

This physicist cannot travel in time, as the asymptotic expansion defines the 'flow of time' as a movement from PAST to the FUTURE, observed in the NOW.

The alien physicist however can superpose hisher NOW onto the cosmic cyclicity of dimensionless time and so visit any galactic cell as if this galaxy was the entire universe precisely WHEN the asymptotic universe WAS this size in the linear perception of time.

So the alien technologist uses the scalefactor of whatever location shehe is analysing, say in terms of spacial volume in 3D and then projects a PHASESHIFT onto this 'volumar' in the form of MOVING the Big Bang Centre, which is the initialising EVEN Hubble-Node n=Ho/Fmax and which is very close, but not equal to 0.

This then allows the alien spaceship say, to bypass the c-invariance of the lightmatrix and project ITSELF as the Centre of the Big Bang in the spacetime volumar under consideration.

As the overall cosmic parameters of the universe at this NOW-Moment can be calculated and as the time traveller MUST incorporate those selfsame parameters in a phaseshifted sense to manifest the 'spaceship' say; the HOLOGRAPHIC NATURE of the Big Bang Cosmogenesis must be accomodated in this Bohmian HOLOMOVEMENT.

In other words, a galaxy of the boundary condition has a thermokinetic temperature background of so 3000 degrees AS the entire universe and encompasses a scale of 1 million lightyears and say an inertia seedling of 10⁵¹ kg.

This mass seedling can however become scalereduced in the Schwarzschild metric to 236 million lightyears and as a precision parameter for the scale of galactic superclusters relative to the Hubble-Universe and as the gravitational boundary for homogenuity and isotropy of the largest possible 3D scaling.

The important parameter is here the ratio between the supergalactic inertia and the universal inertia, both as Black Hole equivalents.

This ratio is known as Omega=actual density/critical density to the terrestrial physicists, but can also be expressed as a ratio between accelerations, namely the so termed 'dark energy acceleration' and the de Broglie phase acceleration. This becomes the expression:

Omega=(GMSeed/wormhole perimeter²)/(RHubble.Fmax²)=0.01405=MSeed/Mcritical.

So the alien omni-scientist transforms the spaceship's inertia M (including any occupants and things) into a Black Hole equivalent using the Schwarzschild static metric 2GM/c² as the 'scale' of the 'containing volume' in 3D and then 'scales' this 'size' to the R(n) scale of the 'spaceship' expressed as the entire universe in terms of its Big Bang Evolvement.

In terms of the entire universe, the 'quasi spaceship' has mass Mseed for whatever scale one chooses; but the transmutation of the supercluster scale in terms of acceleration into R(n) will define a transformation of inertial mass into gravitational mass, which then can be identified with consciousness independent from ANY mass content whatsoever - the 'spaceship of mass M becomes a transformed LIGHTSHIP with mass equivalent M=N.(winded mass quantums)=Energy/c²=#hFmax/c² as a RESONANCE Eigenstate of Source-Energy.

Perhaps this could be understood as the 3D SEED carrying boundary parameters, which allow a continual CHANGE in the way the total energy of the Big Bang say transmutates itself in a process encompassing the most dense eigenstate of E=mc² and the lightest eigenstate of E=hf.

Then the transformations are bidirectional, say from white to black back to dark into light and as say well understood in the processes of pair creation and pair annihilation inby the terrestrial physicist in the quantum-gauge scenarios.

But the terran scientist is 'trapped' in his measurements, his 'static' coordinates of linearity and the necessary upper bounds of movements in the c-invariance.

Only 'moving' coordinates, using n-cycletime instead of linear t-time, allows the lower bound to define the c-invariance in place of the upper bound. Demetrication demands the negation of inertia and the cancellation of mass as a cosmological parameter. Only then can the asymptotic lower dimensional universe become ENVELOPED in its higher dimensional purely electromagnetic precursor.

Einsteinian Relativity requires coordinates for displacement and momentum and the curvature of spacetime is the result of mass being present in a volumar of spacetime.

The extension of Einsteinian Relativity into Quantum Relativity uses the Equivalence Principle to define the spacetime curvature assigned to be the property of mass in 3D to be the INERTIAL equivalent to its GRAVITATIONAL precursor, which does not require mass as a 'pure effect' of the 'dark energy' which is the intrinsic CONSCIOUSNESS of spacetime itself in any dimension.

(4) What is the fourth dimension?

Many people have heard, that this planet earth is 'destined' to 'ascend in consciousness' into the 4th dimension as a certain nexus point, say as the Mayan Harmonic of December 21st, 2012 is reached.

The Alien Observer (AO) knows a great deal more about this, than the Human Observer (HO), because the AO can observe the going ons on earth from a multidimensional perspective of say this 4D, whilst the HO is in a sense 'trapped' or limited by hisher 3D perception of what reality is.

In particular the Alien Scientist, understands what the 4th dimension is and how this extends the 3rd dimension because of the mathematical formalisms, which connect the two.

In 3D, a volume becomes embedded in 3D-space with an inside and and outside, say as the planet earth being 3-dimensional with an 'inner earth' and an 'outer space'.
So the 2D-surface area (S) of this earth becomes a boundary condition separating this inside from the outside.

In particular, differentiating this Volume (V) as say a sphere given as V₃=4πR³/3 will give you the Boundary Condition as dV₃/dR=S₃=4πR².

This is learned on earth in college and in secondary school.

In 4 dimensions, the same mathematics applies, with a 3D-Surface differentiating a 4D-Volume.

So the 3D volume of a sphere can be said to also BE a 3D surface from a 'higher dimensional' perspective.

In particular and more technically speaking, the 3D volume embedded in 3D is single-connected as a volume in 3D, but becomes multi-connected as a 3D surface (or manifold) in 4D.

What looks like a doughnut or a torus in 3D and as a volume BEHAVES like a doughnut or a torus in 4D, but as a manifold.

The thing with toruses mathematically is, that they are curved tubes with say a cyclindrical radius smaller than the radius of the torus 'closing the circle' and being say encompassed by a spherical envelope.

This then allows the alien mathematician to constrain the multiconnectedness of the doughnut in the singular connectedness of the sphere.

And the mathematics in 4D is straight forward in the volume V₄=π²R⁴/2 and dV₄/dR=S₄=2π²R³.

And so the S₄=V₃ for a doughnut in 3D.

But this means, that what is measured and seen as a 3D volume in 3D is also a 4D surface in 4D and acts just like a BOUNDARY between TWO 4D spaces.

The 4D-spaces are of course also 5D-Spacetimes and some very advanced mathematics in the 3D worldtimes have discovered this and called it deSitter 5D spacetimes, which are curved without any matter in them. Those 3D scientists have also discovered that this could underpin the entire observed universe in a so called holographic principle, where all the Information contained in a 3D volume becomes mapped onto the boundary surface of say 2D and so as the surface area of a so called Black Hole. The Information is then equated with Shannon Entropy of quantum bits being conceptually the same as the thermodynamic entropy of Boltzmann Constants and so of classical macro physics and say as the discretization of entropic eigenstates as quarters of Planck areas and such labellings.

The alien scientist understands, that the orthogonal projection of the 4th dimension from the 3rd is nothing but such a Black Hole Information mapping in say a 5D Kaluza-Klein Cosmology.
But because this mapping of information must become twofolded in the 'inside' also being the 'outside' of the boundary manifold; this Black Hole Physics of the 4th dimension must also be 'twosided' and engage not only a Black Hole Sink, but also a White Hole Source.

So the Information going into a Black Hole from the 3rd dimension uses the 4th dimension to go into the 5th dimension and also reappears in the 3rd dimension but delocated because of the dimensional intersection, aka the multidimernsionality of the AO.

The way the Information travels from the 3rd dimension to the 5th dimension is one of a twist, defining the multiconnectivity of the doughnut BECOMING the singular connectivity of the spherical envelope.

In 3D this would simply be the DEFORMATIVE TRANSFORMATION of a doughnut into a ball.

Say a child creates a doughnut out of plasticine. It looks at this ring with a hole in the middle and doesn't like it. It then crumbles the unsatisfactory doughnut up and makes a round ball out of the plasticine.

In 4D the child cannot do this, because here the inside and the outside of the doughnut are not like they are in 3D. In particular the hole in the doughnut in 3D does not exist in 4D, as the space there is multiple connected and not singular as in 3D.
So it is a question of geometry and a question of topology - how space behaves in the dimensionalities.

In 3D, a two-dimensional surface can be made one-sided in say a Moebius Strip. This requires the twisting of one end of the strip by 180 degrees, followed by a 'gluing together' of the two ends. A similar process defines a Klein-Bottle, which is a single surface and which can enclose a Volume of 3D space.

In 4D then, it is a three-dimensional surface which becomes twosided as the inside and the outside and as the doubled information mapping of the Black Hole-White Hole Duality.

The symbolisation for this is the mathematical symbol for infinity ∞ or the cipher 8 or say the hour glass as a cosmic clock or the funnel cosmology of the wormhole in an Einstein-Rosen Bridge or a Kerr Torus.

What does this mean or implicate for the respective observers in 3D and in 4D?

In 3D the observer is within the 'smaller' of the 4D space or the 5D spacetime and so is like an 'inner earth observer' and in 4D, the observer becomes like an 'outer space observer' in the 'greater' 4D space relative to the embeddedment of the 3D volume of earth as having a within and an without and as the 'crossing of the boundaries' in dimensionalities.

Then the 'ascension' of the 3D earth into its 4D 'being' becomes a 'sharing' of the AO perspective and so a crossing or blending or synthesis of the inner earth HO perspective and the outer space AO perspective.

How can the perspective of 4D be shared with the perspective of 3D?

Through Consciousness, being not just some invisible thing of the mind or the brain, BUT becoming a physically measurable Force and Energy.

And the AO knows this to be so already.

The human physics is built on classical laws, which carry a 'hidden interpretation'. It are is those 'hidden formulae', which describe the discrepancies in measurement of the terrestrial scientists; such as dark matter and dark energy.

There is a DARK FORCE, well known to the alien physicist, which is a direct consequence of a most famous classical law, known as the Second Law of Newtonian Mechanics.

This Law is used in all of the terrestrial mechanics, say in calculating the movements of celestial bodies, might those be planets or stars or galaxies.

This Law says, that the Rate of Change of Momentum in Time describes the FORCE of the Dynamics of the thing having the momentum change.

Force F=d(mv)/dt=Mass times Acceleration and where m is mass and v is velocity and t is time for a momentum mv.

Then the two forces in nature which are described in more detail by this become the Force-Laws for Electromagnetism as a strong force and for Gravitation as a weak force, both being potentially infinite in extent and centrally described as inverse square to the displacements between things.

Those things are masses, modelled as 'pointmasses' in the Law of Gravitation and are electric charges, modelled as 'pointcharges' in the Law of Electromagnetism in their classical depictions.

So the physicist writes F=ma=FGravitation=FElectromagnetism =Constant.PointThing²/R² and where R is the distance between the PointThings.

Ok now, if the ma calculation deviates from the Fsomething measurement, say how say stars rotate about a galactic centre, then the terrestrial scientist scratches herhis head and looks for an explanation for this measured and observed discrepancy.

If heshe cannot find any mistakes in the calculations or the measuring instruments or the computer programs analysing the data say, then the HO is forced to postulate additional forces or energies to accomodate and 'explain' the defects.

So what is the Dark Energy and the Missing Mass in the human cosmologies?

The AO knows, that the 'mistake' is not in the Fsomething, but in the F=ma and so more fundamental, than suspected by the HO.

The HO omits the DARK FORCE from herhis equations and calculations.

F=ma is actually TWO parts and those TWO parts become a weak part for gravity and a strong part for electromagnetism IN ADDITION to the Fsomething, the HO got right in the first part.

The details engage the decomposition of Newton's Momentum and the modular duality of the 'constants' in the Fsomething equations.

F=ma=d(mv)/dt=mdv/dt+vdm/dt in the simple application of the product rule in Newtonian-Leibnitzian calculus.

But because the HO considers the mass m as being an invariant in the cosmology and as not being an emergent property from a prior massless frequency state, heshe ignores the vdm/dt part in the calculus in frequency terms and so only uses the changing momentum in terms of velocity and not the changing momentum in terms of the frequency.

The AO incorporates both a LIGHT FORCE: FLight=mdv/dt AND a DARK FORCE: FDark=vdm/dt in hisher calculations in replacing m=hf/c² in the calculations to allow for a massless spacetime.

The AO's calculation, including relativity in nonvector form engage a massless deSitter 5D cosmology:

F=d(mv)/dt=d(hfv/c²)/dt=(h/c²){f.dv/dt+v.df/dt}.

Thus for a c-invariant universe implies dv=0 for v=c and F=(h/c){df/dt}=(h/c){Awareness}=(h/c){Angular Acceleration of SpaceTime}.

Now allowing the 5D universe to attain mass m=hf/c² one eliminates frequency f=mc²/h for FLight=(h/c²){mc²/h}.dv/dt=m.dv/dt=ma.

But FDark still exists as FDark=(h/c²){vdf/dt} and so the two additional CONSCIOUSNESS interactions in the physics of the HO become:

FGravitation =GMm/R²=m.dv/dt + (h/c²){vdf/dt} = FLight + FDark and FElectromagnetism=kEe/R²=m.dv/dt+(h/c²){v.df/dt} = FLight + FDark.

The inclusion of special relativity in the above simply utilizes dm=c² in the energy-momentum relation and defines a relativistic momentum mv in mov/√(1-[v/c]²) without loss of the generality of the above.

Newton's Second Law then reads:
F=d(mov/√(1-[v/c]²)/dt={modv/dt}/√[(1-(v/c)²)³]

upon the differentiation using the mass-energy-mementum relationship: E²=E_o² + (mvc)².

Why has the Dark Force of Universal Consciousness of Spacetime itself eluded the human observer?

The coefficient of the constant (h/c²) is very small in the order of 7x10^-51 and so requires a similarly great awareness df/dt in its inversion and related then to the velocity component v for the associated momenta.

The upper bound of spacetime consciousness is the square of the source-frequency and so 9x10⁶⁰ angular acceleration units, with the inverve being the lower bound for the universal mass frequency (dm is quantised in units of 2.47x10^-81 kg).

Furthermore, the gravitational constant on the cellular scale is unified with the electromagnetic (Coulomb) constant as Go=1/k and so gravity is by nature stronger on the galactic cellular level, than on a local subsystem scale such as a starsystem, which becomes a selfcontained unity in terms of consciousness graduation.

Consciousness INCREASES in the square of two interacting masses in a change in those masses., but is precisely balanced in this in a DECREASE of a locally measured G-constant. This means that the measurement of mass is constantly changing, albeit slowly over linear time with say a protonmass increasing in energy by 62% every 17 billion years and in concordance with the Hubble-Oscillation of the higher dimensional universe.

The higher dimensional observer however measures a 'primordial nucleonmass' and a constant gravitational constant Go which incorporates the Dark Energy AS this growth in Consciousness of spacetime itself.

So in other words again, the local 3D observer would measure an increase in mass and a decrease in G over large cosmic spacetime scales and without inclusion of the spacetime consciousness, manifesting as angular acceleration acting on the local spacial volume.
This 3D observer, when 'looking' or measuring the large spacetime scales however, will find that something is 'missing' from the equations and then terms the 'missing things' Dark Energy and Dark Matter and what have you.
The HO should call it Consciousness of Spacetime itself and then balance herhis equations in the manner indicated in the above.

The AO KNOWS, that Einstein's Cosmological Constant is Consciousness given in the formula:

Einstein-Lambda Λ_o=GoM/R(n⁾²-2cHo/(n+1⁾³ and so the DIFFERENCE between the classical Newtonian Inertia Acceleration and the Inherent Deceleration of a curved higher dimensional spacetime and manifested in the Dark Force of SELF-Consciouisness.

Tony B.

Re: Now Is Eternity

Hi Tony, I wonder if you would consider interleaving the following interview. Imo, it would alleviate much of the head scratching of those who have not mastered the math.
JohnV

Submitted by Lonnie.

Four quotes from the following interview with David Bohm:

'We have become a scientific society. This society has produced all
sorts of discoveries and technology, but if it leads to destruction,
either through war or through devastation of natural resources, then
it will have been the least successful society that ever existed. We
are now in danger of that.'

TonyB.: 'Yes, our technology has made us servant to it as our 'God'. I don't care how much people deny this fact. I now could 'go crazy' and write of why and 'masterplans' and aliens and on and on. I shall refrain from 'sharing' all I 'perceive' at this time, but refer to recent posts shared by Lonnie, which all point into the imo right direction; as does John V's material on the 'required changes'.

But let me say, that any civilisation, whose technological evolution is not accompanied by a comparable 'spiritual-mental' evolution will become doomed to selfdestruction.
I give two simple examples wrt the INSANITY masquerading as RATIONALITY on this planet.

An advanced civilisation would understand the importance of ones environment on all levels. It would, if present on this planet, fully understand that the earth is a living organism, whose projected 'lungs' say engage the amazonian rainforests to a large extent. Then a wanton destroying of those rainforsests to make way for cattle farmers to produce hamburger beef and fill the pockets of shareholders, wordbank financiers and the like would be nothing less than a 'criminal activity' endangering the continuance of a global population requiring, say the oxygen output of the biomass in the endosymbiosis of the global environs and feedback cyclicities.

Such an advanced society would subjugate any 'profit motive' for the few for the 'good of the whole'. Needless to say, such a society would know many things of a metaphysical and a spiritual nature and as countlessly shared by many people around the globe and on this forum, say by Bagheera, John, David, Lonnie and Jim.

Such a society would not worship a culture of youth and immaturity and respect the wisdom of its elders.
Such a society would understand the immutable laws of nature or the universe. It would OBSERVE what works and what does not work in the so called 'regulation' of the individuals and groups and clans and nations which constitute the global citizenry.

One immutable law of the universe is that of growing into maturity in a process of evolution, encompassing physical bodies and mental bodies.
Then a clear indication about the maturity of a society, is how it regulates the education of this process.
An advanced society would UNDERSTAND, that young physical bodies are designed for physical endurance and strength, say childbirth; BUT that those same young strong bodies are NOT capable to bring up its own offspring due to lack of mental maturity, say the lack of life experience and wisdom. So any advanced society would not insist, that the young in mind are solely responsible for raising their own offspring unassisted. This advanced society would KNOW, that the responsibility to educate and 'bring up' the young is best assigned to grandparents past reproductive age, say 50.

This is perhaps the deepest proof for any advanced civilisation, as a lack of understanding here clearly indicates the root for most other 'problems' of disfunctionality. The advanced society would honour the EXTENDED FAMILY as a necessary clustering and sharing of resources and responsibilities on all levels. Children (or spouses) would NOT be seen as POSSESSIONS in such a society and the idea of 'owning land' would be more a stewardship over a 'living space' of the community, than as a 'right of the individual'.

A mature society would eschew the compacted living in depersonalised cities and favour EXTENDED INDIVIDUALITY in smaller localised groups, clans and communities, which REPERSONALISE the individual as belonging to a GROUPMIND/consciousness.

So the true cause for the selfdestruction of any technologically advanced society will be its SEEKING OF SEPARATION from the whole, the holy unity and oneness.

The simple key is the following: SEPARATION WITHIN UNITY is not UNITY WITHIN SEPARATION.

The former is the understanding of an advanced society and the contra state the latter.

In other words, Separation within the Unity allows the principle of Oneness, say God or 'All That Is' or IAMTHATIAM to encompass the individual; whilst the latter does not.

The latter is the perception of the separatist, might this between mind and body, soul and brain or wave and particle or yin and yang or spirit and matter.

In most simplest words; 'God' is spiritual mind and mind is thought and thought is energy untransformed.

God is mind and is not a body; BUT desires a body.

Hence, God 'splits in two' - mind and antimind in a process describable as 'forming God's image'.

God's antimind as an image so allows a new definition, namely spacetimematter can be substituted for the antimind.

Ergo with spacetime the 'other half' of God becomes PHYSICALLY REAL as a 'body' for God as HIS image of HER -the 'wife' of God, namely the material universe of the cosmologists.

BUT it is still UNIFIED as God before the mind-antimind dichotomy became the divine paradox of good and evil etc.

Having a material 'half-God', the process repeats in this 'half' dividing and dividing and reproducing itself.

But now, because of the imageries, TWO sexes can emerge in say AdamEve becoming Adam+Eve as the image for the orginal 'God-Energy' which was androgynous.

In terms of the 'thoughtfulness' or consciousness this was instantaneously created in 'thoughtform' aka the 'Mind of God'; but in terms of the material universe NOW existing in a spacetimematter matrix, this took the form of a physical emergence and evolvement from a NOW transformed energy background, describable in say a Big Bang Cosmology, where the polarities originated in a neutrality splitting into positives and negatives (say neutron beta decay into protons and electrons and so on).

Every polarity coupling so is CONSCIOUS as a derivative from the original GODDOG mind (now incorporating the 'Father' as the Creator mind and the 'Mother' as the Created mind, now cocreating in the EVOLUTION of the God-Family and as the IMAGED MIND, which upsurped the antimind of the IMAGINARY 'Devil-Mind' as unreal brother-in-the-mirror mind say).

Eventually, the polarities, which are very close together in the neutron in say high energy/temperature can separate and recombine in a cooling of the energy matrix and the first atoms form - then elements are born and the expansion of the universe as an effect of the evolution pressure, is modified in the gravitational contraction as the necessity for the reproduction of the material structures of 'bodies' all together BEING the desired Body of God.

The Laws of physics, then define the details of how this could occur and say eventually a galactic nebula contracts and rotationally differentiates in starnebulas and say a particular solar system crystallises out of the 'starry disk' with a solar core and planetary rings.

A particular planet finds itself in a thermodynamic environment which would allow a kind of permanence in water supply and so the ELEMENTS of this planet will USE a group-consciousness to WORK TOGETHER to CHANGE the say embryonic planetary characteristics into more 'grown up ones'.
In terms of physical science then, radioactive decay of elements in the young earth's interior 'conspire' to form 'volcanic gases' of elemental energies, say sulphur and raise to form a primordial 'atmosphere'.

But the earth is a part of the 'solar system consciousness' and so communicates with the central sun, say physically via the 'solar wind' which bombards the earth with nuclear- and cosmic particles, allowing say hydrogen and oxygen to interact with the primeval terrestrial environments.
So changes in the say sulphuric atmosphere cause precipitations and the first 'rains' fall onto the hitherto waterless earth to eventually form the oceans.

Now the 'consciousness' of this CHANGE are 'elemental souls or spirits', which are nought, but the 'LIFE' of the chemical molecules considered by the physical sciences.

This 'LIFE' is peripheral or say describable as less intense or 'thinned out' and RELATIVE to the complexity and interaction which can be 'encompassed' by say the chemical molecule.

So once 'LIFE' integrates something like the 'plan of architecture' in its molecular 'make-up'; this 'LIFE' will CHANGE from chemical to biochemical and in say the geometries of the DNA/RNA; which originates in a 'masterplan' of how the 'God-Division' of the beginning manifested itself in the birth of the Mother from the Father.

BUT the LIFE of the molecule is a derivative from the Source-Energy as much as as is the LIFE of the thermophilic microbe, say.
The difference is one of selfawareness, how far the consciousness of the molecule can attain RESONANCE with the SOURCE-FREQUENCY.

CONSCIOUSNESS IS definable as the AWARENESS of some volume of space, containing some form of matter, relative to itself.

So the MASS is simply concentrated source energy with the potential to REMEMBER itself through becoming conscious, if it just could TRANSCEND its matterness.

Eventually, the microbes evolve in various environments, always under 'guidance' of the 'disembodied' consciousness which HAS NOT incarnated in such a way and this is all planetary, and solar, and galactic and cosmic.

But the PURPOSE is crystal clear. ALL LIFE exists to REDISCOVER its origins and COSMIC IDENTITY as the MIND and the BODY OF GOD.

The universe exists, because God desires a Body to become REAL from its UNREAL existance AS A THOUGHTFORM.

All SOULS are INDIVIDUATED THOUGHTFORMS of God and which so can both be individuated in separation (within the unity not AS the unity which is the formula for earth's PHYSICAL demise) and also form groups as SOUL-FAMILIES or what label you may choose.

Eventually, certain bodyforms will have 'climbed the ladder of evolution'; having EXPERIENCED COLLECTIVELY, the microbial mind, the insect mind, the amphibious mind, the reptile mind and the mammalian mind.

Then the complexity and immense 'work' which has gone into designing the human bodyform in thought by the 'watchers' will result in a SELF-Awareness of this species, which will or can bring about a more complete REMEMBRANCE of the embodied organism as to its purpose, origin and destiny.

A very few of the then selfaware 'humans' will be able to retrace their origins and they will be able to personally KNOW who the 'watchers' are. They will UNDERSTAND, that there is only ONE Universe, but that MULTIPLE phaseshifts for this universe exist simultaneously.
So TIME becomes a linear construct to CONFINE and to RESTRICT the phasal universe to an EXPERIENCE, which can then be analysed and evaluated in minute detail in a spacetimematter matrix.

Knowing, that the indicvidual 'soul' is actually a 'group-soul' and ultimately the 'oversoul' of 'All That Is'; the selfaware starhuman will be able to transcend the spacetimematter restrictions imposed upon a necessary 'Cradle of Creation', which serves as a CONTEXTUAL matrix for the DIVINE DICHOTOMY for the rest of the universe and including the 'watchers'.

Every human body is a 'merkabah'; every human body is 'Noah's Ark'; every human body is the 'Holiest of Holies' of Moses' exodus; every human body is the 'Vessel of the Lord' and every human body is a spaceship, which can be transformed to be manouvered with thought.

'Physics is more like quantum organism than quantum mechanics. I
think physicists have a tremendous reluctance to admit this. There is
a long history of belief in quantum mechanics, and people have faith
in it. And they don't like having this faith challenged.'

'Ultimately, all moments are really one. Therefore now is eternity.'

Tony B.: Yes, this is what is said in the above.'

Talking from the perspective of the omni-physicist I simply state that David Bohm is an omni-physicist and a quantum relativist.

Tony B.

'When I first studied quantum mechanics I felt again that sense of
internal relationship -- that it was describing something that I was
experiencing directly rather than just thinking about.'
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David Bohm (1917-1992) was interviewed for Omni in 1987 by John
Briggs and F. David Peat, over a two-day period near Amherst College
in Massachusetts, where Bohm was involved in a series of meetings
with the Dalai Lama. Additional comments are taken from a previous
interview in England by writer Llee Heflin.
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(Numbers in brackets indicate references which are given at the end)
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Omni: Can you recall when you first experienced the sense of the
wholeness that you now express as the implicate order?

Bohm: When I was a boy a certain prayer we said every day in Hebrew
contained the words to love God with all your heart all your soul,
and all your mind. My understanding of these words, that is, this
notion of wholeness -- not necessarily directed toward God but as a
way of living -- had a tremendous impact on me. I also felt a sense
of nature being whole very early. I felt internally related to trees,
mountains, and stars in a way I wasn't to all the chaos of the cities.

When I first studied quantum mechanics I felt again that sense of
internal relationship -- that it was describing something that I was
experiencing directly rather than just thinking about.

The notion of spin particularly fascinated me: the idea that when
something is spinning in a certain direction, it could also spin in
the other direction but that somehow the two directions together
would be a spin in a third direction. I felt that somehow that
described experience with the processes of the mind. In thinking
about spin I felt I was in a direct relationship to nature. In
quantum mechanics I came closer to my intuitive sense of nature.

Omni: Yet you've said that quantum mechanics doesn't provide a clear
picture of nature. What do you mean?

Bohm: The main problem is that quantum mechanics gives only the
probability of an experimental result. Neither the decay of an atomic
nucleus nor the fact that it decays at one moment and not another can
be properly pictured within the theory. It can only enable you to
predict statistically the results of various experiments.

Physics has changed from its earlier form, when it tried to explain
things and give some physical picture. Now the essence is regarded as
mathematical. It's felt the truth is in the formulas. Now they may
find an algorithm by which they hope to explain a wider range of
experimental results, but it will still have inconsistencies. They
hope that they can eventually explain all the results that could be
gotten, but that is only a hope.

Omni: How did the founders of quantum mechanics initially receive
your book Quantum Theory?

Bohm: In the Fifties, when I sent it around to various physicists --
including [Niels] Bohr, Einstein, and [Wolfgangl Pauli -- Bohr didn't
answer, but Pauli liked it. Einstein sent me a message that he'd like
to talk with me. When we met he said the book had done about as well
as you could do with quantum mechanics. But he was still not
convinced it was a satisfactory theory.

His objection was not merely that it was statistical. He felt it was
a kind of abstraction; quantum mechanics got correct results but left
out much that would have made it intelligible. I came up with the
causal interpretation [that the electron is a particle, but it also
has a field around it. The particle is never separated from that
field, and the field affects the movement of the particle in certain
ways].

Einstein didn't like it, though, because the interpretation had this
notion of action at a distance:
Things that are far away from each other profoundly affect each
other. He believed only in local action.

I didn't come back to this implicate order until the Sixties, when I
got interested in notions of order. I realized then the problem is
that coordinates are still the basic order in physics, whereas
everything else has changed.

Omni: Your key concept is something you call enfoldment. Could you
explain it?

Bohm: Everybody has seen an image of enfoldment: You fold up a sheet
of paper, turn it into a small packet, make cuts in it, and then
unfold it into a pattern. The parts that were close in the cuts
unfold to be far away. This is like what happens in a hologram.
Enfoldment is really very common in our experience. All the light in
this room comes in so that the entire room is in effect folded into
each part. If your eye looks, the light will be then unfolded by your
eye and brain. As you look through a telescope or a camera, the whole
universe of space and time is enfolded into each part, and that is
unfolded to the eye. With an old-fashioned television set that's not
adjusted properly, the image enfolds into the screen and then can be
unfolded by adjustment.

Omni: You spoke of coordinates and order a moment ago. How do they
tie in with enfoldment? Do you mean coordinates like those on a grid?

Bohm: Yes, but not necessarily straight lines. They are a way of
mapping space and time. Since space-time may be curved, the lines may
be curved as well. It became clear that each general notion of the
world contains within it a specific idea of order. The ancient Greeks
had the idea of an increasing perfection from the earth to the
heavens. Modern physics contains the idea of successive positions of
bodies of matter and the constraints of forces that act on these
bodies. The order of perfection investigated by the ancient Greeks is
now considered irrelevant.

The most radical change in the notion of order since Isaac Newton
came with quantum mechanics. The quantum-mechanical idea of order
contradicts coordinate order because Heisenberg's uncertainty
principle made a detailed ordering of space and time impossible. When
you apply quantum theory to general relativity, at very short
distances like ten to the minus thirty-three centimeters, the notion
of the order of space and time breaks down.

Omni: Can you replace that with some other sense of order?

Bohm: First you have to ask what we mean by order. Everybody has some
tacit notion of it, but order itself is impossible to define. Yet it
can be illustrated. In a photograph any part of an object is imaged
into a point. This point-to-point correspondence emphasizes the
notion of point as fundamental in sense of order. Cameras now
photograph things too big or too small, too fast or too slow to be
seen by the naked eye. This has reinforced our belief that everything
can ultimately be seen that way.

Omni: Aren't the contradictions you have been talking about embedded
in the very name quantum mechanics?

Bohm: Yes. Physics is more like quantum organism than quantum
mechanics. I think physicists have a tremendous reluctance to admit
this. There is a long history of belief in quantum mechanics, and
people have faith in it. And they don't like having this faith
challenged.

Omni: So our image is the lens, the apparatus suggesting the point.
The point in turn suggests electrons and particles.

Bohm: And the track of particles on the photograph. Now what
instrument would illustrate wholeness? Perhaps the holograph. Waves
from the whole object come into each part of the hologram. This makes
the hologram a kind of knowledge of the whole object. If you examine
it with a very narrow beam of laser light, it's as if you were
looking through a window the size of that laser beam. If you expand
the beam, it's as though you are looking through a broader window
that sees the object more precisely and from more angles. But you are
always getting information about the whole object, no matter how much
or little of it you take.

But let's put aside the hologram because that's only a static record.
Returning to the actual situation, we have a constant dynamic pattern
of waves coming off an object and interfering with the original wave.
Within that pattern of movement, many objects are enfolded in each
region of space and time.

Classical physics says that reality is actually little particles that
separate the world into its independent elements. Now I'm proposing
the reverse, that the fundamental reality is the enfoldment and
unfoldment, and these particles are abstractions from that. We could
picture the electron not as a particle that exists continuously but
as something coming in and going out and then coming in again. If
these various condensations are close together, they approximate a
track. The electron itself can never be separated from the whole of
space, which is its ground.

About the time I was looking into these questions, a BBC science
program showed a device that illustrates these things very well. It
consists of two concentric glass cylinders. Between them is a viscous
fluid, such as glycerin. If a drop of insoluble ink is placed in the
glycerin and the outer cylinder is turned slowly, the drop of dye
will be drawn out into a thread. Eventually the thread gets so
diffused it cannot be seen. At that moment there seems to be no order
present at all. Yet if you slowly turn the cylinder backward, the
glycerin draws back into its original form, and suddenly the ink drop
is visible again. The ink had been enfolded into the glycerin, and it
was unfolded again by the reverse turning.

Omni: Suppose you put a drop of dye in the cylinder and turn it a few
times, then put another drop in the same place and turn it. When you
turn the cylinder back, wouldn't you get a kind of oscillation?

Bohm: Yes, you would get a movement in and out. We could put in one
drop of dye and turn it and then put in another drop of dye at a
slightly different place, and so on. The first and second droplets
are folded a different number of times. If we keep this up and then
turn the cylinder backward, the drops continually appear and
disappear. So it would look as if a particle were crossing the space,
but in fact it's always the whole system that's involved.

We can discuss the movement of all matter in terms of this folding
and unfolding, which I call the holomovement.

Omni: What do you think is the order of the holomovement?

Bohm: It may lie outside of time as we ordinarily know it. If the
universe began with the Big Bang and there are black holes, then we
must eventually reach places where the notion of time and space
breaks down. Anything could happen. As various cosmologists have put
it, if a black hole came out with a sign flashing COCA COLA, it
shouldn't be surprising. Within the singularity none of the laws as
we know them apply. There are no particles; they are all
disintegrated. There is no space and no time. Whatever is, is beyond
any concept we have at present. The present physics implies that the
total conceptual basis of physics must be regarded as completely
inadequate. The grand unification [of the four forces of the
universe] could be nothing but an abstraction in the face of some
further unknown.

I propose something like this: Imagine an infinite sea of energy
filling empty space, with waves moving around in there, occasionally
coming together and producing an intense pulse. Let's say one
particular pulse comes together and expands, creating our universe of
space-time and matter. But there could well be other such pulses. To
us, that pulse looks like a big bang; In a greater context, it's a
little ripple. Everything emerges by unfoldment from the
holomovement, then enfolds back into the implicate order. I call the
enfolding process 'implicating,' and the unfolding 'explicating.' The
implicate and explicate together are a flowing, undivided wholeness.
Every part of the universe is related to every other part but in
different degrees.

There are two experiences: One is movement in relation to other
things; the other is the sense of flow. The movement of meaning is
the sense of flow. But even in moving through space, there is a
movement of meaning. In a moving picture, with twenty-four frames per
second, one frame follows another, moving from the eye through the
optic nerve, into the brain. The experience of several frames
together gives you the sense of flow. This is a direct experience of
the implicate order.

In classical mechanics, movement or velocity is defined as the
relation between the position now and the position a short time ago.
What was a short time ago is gone, so you relate what is to what is
not. This isn't a logical concept. In the implicate order you are
relating different frames that are copresent in consciousness. You're
relating what is to what is. A moment contains flow or movement.

The moment may be long or short, as measured in time. In
consciousness a moment is around a tenth of a second. Electronic
moments are much shorter, but a moment of history might be a century.

Omni: So a moment enfolds all the past?

Bohm: Yes, but the recent past is enfolded more strongly. At any
given moment we feel the presence of all the past and also the
anticipated future. It's all present and active. I could use the
example of the cylinder again. Let's say we enfold one droplet h
times. Then we put another droplet in and enfold it N times. The
relationship between the droplets remains the same no matter how
thoroughly they are enfolded. So as you unfold, you will get back the
original relationship. Imagine if we take four or five droplets --
all highly enfolded -- the relationship between them is still there
in a very subtle way, even though it is not in space and not in time.
But, of course, it can be transformed into space and time by turning
the cylinder.

The best metaphor might involve memory. We remember a great many
events, which are all present together. Their succession is in that
momentary memory: We don't have to run through them all to reproduce
that time succession. We already have the succession.

Omni: And a sense of movement -- so you have replaced time with
movement?

Bohm: Yes, in the sense of movement of the symphony, rather than the
movement of the orchestra on a bus, say, through physical space.

Omni: What do you think that says about consciousness?

Bohm: Much of our experience suggests that the implicate order is
natural for understanding consciousness: When you are talking to
somebody, your whole intention to speak enfolds a large number of
words. You don't choose them one by one. There are any number of
examples of the implicate order in our experience of consciousness.
Any one word has behind it a whole range of meaning enfolded in
thought.

Consciousness is unfolded in each individual. Clearly, it's shared
between people as they look at one object and verify that it's the
same. So any high level of consciousness is a social process. There
may be some level of sensorimotor perception that is purely
individual, but any abstract level depends on language, which is
social. The word, which is outside, evokes the meaning, which is
inside each person.

Meaning is the bridge between consciousness and matter. Any given
array of matter has for any particular mind a significance. The other
side of this is the relationship in which meaning is immediately
effective in matter. Suppose you see a shadow on a dark night. If it
means 'assailant,' your adrenaline flows, your heart beats faster,
blood pressure rises, and muscles tense. The body and all your
thoughts are affected; everything about you has changed. If you see
that it's only a shadow, there's an abrupt change again.

That is an example of the implicate order: Meaning enfolds the whole
world into me, and vice versa-that enfolded meaning is unfolded as
action, through my body and then through the world. The word hormone
means 'messenger,' that is, a substance carrying some meaning.
Neurotransmitters carry meaning, and that meaning profoundly affects
the immune system. This understanding could be the beginning of a
different attitude to mind-and to life.

Omni: Descartes held mind and external reality together with God.
You're holding the two with meaning.

Bohm: I say meaning is being! So any transformation of society must
result in a profound change of meaning. Any change of meaning for the
individual would change the whole because all individuals are so
similar that it can be communicated.

Omni: What do you think might convince the next generation of
physicists, who seem very skeptical, that the implicate order is
worth investigating?

Bohm: The most convincing thing would be to develop the theory
mathematically and make some predictions. A few years ago The New
York Times noted that some physicists were critical of grand
unification theory, saying that not much had been achieved. Defenders
of grand unification theories said it would take about twenty years
to see results.

It seems that people are ready to wait twenty years for results if
you've got formulas. If there are no formulas, they don't want to
consider it. Formulas are means of talking utter nonsense until you
understand what they mean. Every page of formulas usually contains
six or seven arbitrary assumptions that take weeks of hard study to
penetrate.

Younger physicists usually appreciate the implicate order because it
makes quantum mechanics easier to grasp. By the time they're through
graduate school, they've become dubious about it because they've
heard that hidden variables are of no use because they've been
refuted. Of course, nobody has really refuted them.

At this point, I think that the major issue is mathematics. In
supersymmetry theory an interesting piece of mathematics will attract
attention, even without any experimental confirmation.

Omni: If scientists could accept your theory, would it change the
meaning of nature for them? Would it change the meaning of science in
general?

Bohm: We have become a scientific society. This society has produced
all sorts of discoveries and technology, but if it leads to
destruction, either through war or through devastation of natural
resources, then it will have been the least successful society that
ever existed. We are now in danger of that.

Where we are going depends on the programs of four thousand five
hundred million people, all somewhat different, most of them opposed
to one another. Every moment these programs are changing in detail.
Who can say where they are going to lead us? All we can do is start a
movement among those few people who are interested in changing the
meaning.

Omni: You've suggested that it may be possible to develop 'group
minds.' Could they serve as a potential avenue for this change of
meaning?

Bohm: They could: If we don't establish these absolute boundaries
between minds, then I think it's possible they could in some way
unite as one mind. If there were a genuine understanding of and
feeling for wholeness in this group mind, it might be enough to
change things -- though as the external circumstances gain momentum
it becomes harder. This is important, especially if there is a
catastrophe, so that the notion of group minds might remain in the
consciousness of survivors.

Omni: All that seems to imply a radical change in the concept of
being human.

Bohm: Yes. The notion of permanent identity would go by the wayside.
This would be terrifying at first. The present mind, identified as it
is with the personality, would react to protect the sense of
personal 'self' against that terror.

Omni: That seems to fit in well with your thoughts about death.

Bohm: Death must be connected with questions of time and identity.
When you die, everything on which your identity depends is going. All
things in your memory will go. Your whole definition of what you are
will go. The whole sense of being separate from anything will go
because that's part of your identity. Your whole sense of time must
go.

Is there anything that will exist beyond death? That is the question
everybody has always asked. It doesn't make sense to say something
goes on in time. Rather I would say everything sinks into the
implicate order, where there is no time. But suppose we say that
right now, when I'm alive, the same thing is happening. The implicate
order is unfolding to be me again and again each moment. And the past
me is gone.

Omni: The past you, then, has been snatched back into the implicate
order.

Bohm: That's right. Anything I know about 'me' is in the past. The
present 'me' is the unknown. We say there is only one implicate
order, only one present. But it projects itself as a whole series of
moments. Ultimately, all moments are really one. Therefore now is
eternity.

In one sense, everything, including me, is dying every moment into
eternity and being born again, so all that will happen at death is
that from a certain moment certain features will not be born again.
But our whole thought process causes us to confront this with great
fear in an attempt to preserve identity. One of my interests at this
stage of life is looking at that fear.

http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/ and http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/quantumrelativity

This view is imo correct. Say compare with 'Conversations with God' By Neale Donald Walsh (book 3) and universal gnosis.

Tony B.

The New View of God
by Owen Waters

When I was a child in Sunday School classes, I
was taught to view God as someone very personal. We were given
an image of a human-like God who personally watched over each
and every one of us. That was long before the Hubble Space
Telescope started to show us how incredibly huge the universe is.

In the decades since, our appreciation of the
size of the universe has increased enormously. Likewise, our
view of the size of God has increased enormously. Today, we
realize that God, as an omnipresent being, must be at least
the size of the entire universe. By current estimates, the
universe contains over a hundred billion galaxies, each one
containing an estimated two hundred billion suns. That means
that there are countless trillions of planets, each one filled
with the all-pervasive presence of that which created
them. This brings us to today's prevalent spiritual dilemma.

With God's presence being so far-reaching, how
can there be any semblance of the personal attention that we
were taught to expect from a father-like God image? Today, you
are left wondering whether God is, (a) personal, or (b) so
large in scale as to be infinitely impersonal. Surely, one
idea would exclude the other.

Or would it? A paradox is something that contains
opposite statements and yet both are true. The secret to
solving paradoxes is to start using the word 'and'
instead of 'or.' The question is not whether God is infinitely large
or personal.
The question becomes, how can God be infinite in
size and personal as well?

The answer lies within the Paradox of Infinite
Being. The term Infinite Being is used here as the ultimate
concept of God. The word Infinite, as in omnipresent. The word Being,
as in omniscient awareness. Infinite Being is the
perfect, unchanging consciousness behind all of Creation.

Because Infinite Being is consciousness, and
nothing but consciousness, it is appropriate to note here
that nothing in Creation is anything but consciousness in one
form or another.
Energy is simply a compressed form of
consciousness set into motion. Matter is energy. Therefore matter is a
form of consciousness. It can't be any other way, because
consciousness is the only tool with which Infinite Being has to
work. We are a dream within the mind of the Creator. The
universe was created within the consciousness of Infinite
Being.

I remember being told in a science class at
school that space must be infinite in size because there couldn't
be anything beyond the end of space; therefore, it had to go
on for ever.
It didn't sound right at the time, and now I know
why. Space is actually finite, because it was created within
Infinite Being.
The created must be less than its creator,
therefore space must be less than infinite. Beyond the envelope of
space lies that which created it.

In order to create the universe, Infinite Being
divided the 'waters' - its consciousness - into two aspects:
Creator and Preserver. In the West, we are used to thinking
of the Creator as God the Father, while the Preserver aspect is
called the Holy Spirit. In the East, the names are different
but the principles are exactly the same. For example, the
Hindu name for the Creator aspect is Brahma, while Vishnu
represents the aspect that preserves and sustains the universe.
Stories of Creation from all over the world share the common
thread of two complementary aspects coming together to bring
light into existence.

The two aspects of Creator and Preserver were set
into complementary motion in order to manifest the
universe. Through the interaction of these two aspects of original
consciousness, the universe was formed and, along with it, the
capability for Infinite Being to view itself from an infinite
number of viewpoints.

The human race today represents approximately
seven billion different viewpoints of the one Source. According
to the rules of the human adventure, we were born with
spiritual amnesia. We have forgotten our inner connection. The
challenge of the game is to discover and consciously reconnect with
that to which, in reality, we are and always were connected.
Self-awareness and free will are included in the rules of the game.
The illusion of separateness from each other is created by an
intense focus upon life in an outer, physical world, as viewed
by the five senses. People are free to choose to interact
with other people in the ways that they see best.

People can even choose to believe that they are
separate from that ultimate Source to which they are connected.
Atheism, therefore, is not a lack of belief. It's a belief
in something that isn't so. If you have an inbuilt connection
to God, yet believe that you don't, you are expressing a
belief, not a lack of one.

Mystics talk of experiencing a sense of oneness
with the infinite while in deep meditation. Those who can
go still deeper into the realms of consciousness report
that there is more to it than just a feeling of oneness. Deep
within, you aren't so much an individual who is as one with
Infinite Being. You are Infinite Being!

You are Infinite Being, observing itself through
the one viewpoint that is you. You aren't a part of
Infinite Being. You are Infinite Being, acting from one specific
point of view.
Likewise, every sentient being is also Infinite
Being, looking at itself from their own unique points of view.

The solution to the Paradox of Infinite Being is
that, while we are a part of an immense universe of almost
unlimited proportions, we are also Infinite Being itself.
As you experience life through your eyes and ears and
senses, you are Infinite Being, acting through yet another
viewpoint of the infinite variety of life. Every fiber of your
body is Infinite Being, every dream that you manifest is Infinite
Being in action, every tear of joy that you shed in the
finer experiences of life is a tear shed by Infinite
Being in its form as you.

You can be closer to God than ever before when
you realize that every part of your body, mind and spirit is
God. Even in this strange world where we appear to be separate
from everyone else, the conscious awareness of the presence of
God is a mere thought away.

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This article was written by Owen Waters, author
of 'The Shift: The Revolution in Human
Consciousness'

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